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    A quick "trip report" from the pilot of the 747 that flew the shuttle
    back to Florida after the Hubble repair flight.

    A humorous and interesting inside look at what it's like to fly two aircraft
    at once . . .


    Well, it's been 48 hours since I landed the 747 with the shuttle Atlantis on
    top and I am still buzzing from the experience. I have to say that my whole
    mind, body and soul went into the professional mode just before engine start
    in Mississippi, and stayed there, where it all needed to be, until well
    after the flight...in fact, I am not sure if it is all back to normal as I
    type this email. The experience was surreal. Seeing that "thing" on top
    of an already overly huge aircraft boggles my mind. The whole mission from
    takeoff to engine shutdown was unlike anything I had ever done. It was like
    a dream... someone else's dream.

    We took off from Columbus AFB on their 12,000 foot runway, of which I used
    11,999 1/2 feet to get the wheels off the ground. We were at 3,500 feet
    left to go of the runway, throttles full power, nose wheels still hugging
    the ground, copilot calling out decision speeds, the weight of Atlantis now
    screaming through my fingers clinched tightly on the controls, tires heating
    up to their near maximum temperature from the speed and the weight, and not
    yet at rotation speed, the speed at which I would be pulling on the controls
    to get the nose to rise. I just could not wait, and I mean I COULD NOT
    WAIT, and started pulling early. If I had waited until rotation speed, we
    would not have rotated enough to get airborne by the end of the runway. So
    I pulled on the controls early and started our rotation to the takeoff
    attitude. The wheels finally lifted off as we passed over the stripe
    marking the end of the runway and my next hurdle (physically) was a line of
    trees 1,000 feet off the departure end of Runway 16. All I knew was we were
    flying and so I directed the gear to be retracted and the flaps to be moved
    from Flaps 20 to Flaps 10 as I pulled even harder on the controls. I must
    say, those trees were beginning to look a lot like those brushes in the
    drive through car washes so I pulled even harder yet! I think I saw a bird
    just fold its wings and fall out of a tree as if to say "Oh just take me".
    Okay, we cleared the trees, duh, but it was way too close for my laundry.
    As we started to actually climb, at only 100 feet per minute, I smelled
    something that reminded me of touring the Heineken Brewery in Europe ...I
    said "is that a skunk I smell?" and the veterans of shuttle carrying looked
    at me and smiled and said "Tires"! I said "TIRES??? OURS???" They smiled
    and shook their heads as if to call their Captain an amateur...okay, at that
    point, I was. The tires were so hot you could smell them in the cockpit.
    My mind could not get over, from this point on, that this was something I
    had never experienced. Where's your mom when you REALLY need her?

    The flight down to Florida was an eternity. We cruised at 250 knots
    indicated, giving us about 315 knots of ground speed at 15,000.' The miles
    didn't click by like I am use to them clicking by in a fighter jet at MACH
    .94. We were burning fuel at a rate of 40,000 pounds per hour or 130 pounds
    per mile, or one gallon every length of the fuselage. The vibration in the
    cockpit was mild, compared to down below and to the rear of the fuselage
    where it reminded me of that football game I had as a child where you turned
    it on and the players vibrated around the board. I felt like if I had
    plastic clips on my boots I could have vibrated to any spot in the fuselage
    I wanted to go without moving my legs...and the noise was deafening. The
    747 flies with its nose 5 degrees up in the air to stay level, and when you
    bank, it feels like the shuttle is trying to say "hey, let's roll completely
    over on our back"...not a good thing I kept telling myself. So I limited my
    bank angle to 15 degrees and even though a 180 degree course change took a
    full zip code to complete, it was the safe way to turn this monster

    Airliners and even a flight of two F-16s deviated from their flight plans to
    catch a glimpse of us along the way. We dodged what was in reality very few
    clouds and storms, despite what everyone thought, and arrived in Florida
    with 51,000 pounds of fuel too much to land with. We can't land heavier
    than 600,000 pounds total weight and so we had to do something with that
    fuel. I had an idea...let's fly low and slow and show this beast off to all
    the taxpayers in Florida lucky enough to be outside on that Tuesday
    afternoon. So at Ormond Beach we let down to 1,000 feet above the
    ground/water and flew just east of the beach out over the water. Then, once
    we reached the NASA airspace of the Kennedy Space Center, we cut over to the
    Banana/Indian Rivers and flew down the middle of them to show the people of
    Titusville, Port St.Johns and Melbourne just what a 747 with a shuttle on it
    looked like. We stayed at 1,000 feet and since we were dragging our flaps
    at "Flaps 5," our speed was down to around 190 to 210 knots. We could see
    traffic stopping in the middle of roads to take a look. We heard later that
    a Little League Baseball game stop to look and everyone cheered as we became
    their 7th inning stretch. Oh say can you see...

    After reaching Vero Beach, we turned north to follow the coast line back up
    to the Shuttle Landing Facility (SLF). There was not one person laying on
    the beach...they were all standing and waving! "What a sight" I thought ...
    and figured they were thinking the same thing. All this time I was bugging
    the engineers, all three of them, to re-compute our fuel and tell me when it
    was time to land. They kept saying "Not yet Triple, keep showing this thing
    off" which was not a bad thing to be doing. However, all this time the
    thought that the landing, the muscling of this 600,000 pound beast, was
    getting closer and closer to my reality. I was pumped up! We got back to
    the SLF and were still 10,000 pounds too heavy to land so I said I was going
    to do a low approach over the SLF going the opposite direction of landing
    traffic that day. So at 300 feet, we flew down the runway, rocking our
    wings like a whale rolling on its side to say "hello" to the people looking
    on! One turn out of traffic and back to the runway to land...still 3,000
    pounds over gross weight limit. But the engineers agreed that if the
    landing were smooth, there would be no problem. "Oh thanks guys, a little
    extra pressure is just what I needed!" So we landed at 603,000 pounds and
    very smoothly if I have to say so myself. The landing was so totally
    controlled and on speed, that it was fun. There were a few surprises that I
    dealt with, like the 747 falls like a rock with the orbiter on it if you
    pull the throttles off at the "normal" point in a landing and secondly, if
    you thought you could hold the nose off the ground after the mains touch
    down, think again...IT IS COMING DOWN!!! So I "flew it down" to the ground
    and saved what I have seen in videos of a nose slap after landing. Bob's
    video supports this! :8-)

    Then I turned on my phone after coming to a full stop only to find 50
    bazillion emails and phone messages from all of you who were so super to be
    watching and cheering us on! What a treat, I can't thank y'all enough. For
    those who watched, you wondered why we sat there so long. Well, the shuttle
    had very hazardous chemicals on board and we had to be "sniffed" to
    determine if any had leaked or were leaking. They checked for
    Monomethylhydrazine (N2H4 for Charlie Hudson) and nitrogen tetroxide (N2O4).
    Even though we were "clean," it took way too long for them to tow us in to
    the mate-demate area. Sorry for those who stuck it out and even waited
    until we exited the jet.

    I am sure I will wake up in the middle of the night here soon, screaming and
    standing straight up dripping wet with sweat from the realization of what
    had happened. It was a thrill of a lifetime. Again I want to thank
    everyone for your interest and support. It felt good to bring Atlantis home
    in one piece after she had worked so hard getting to the Hubble Space
    Telescope and back.

    Triple Nickel

    NASA Pilot
     
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    Sounds similar to flying a C5. I am always amazed at how low and slow they seem to fly on approach or takeoff. Seeing the shuttle on the back of a 747 must of been great for those enjoying the beaches that day.
     
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