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  1. gord

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    hmmm, just rereading this article and it takes on a whole new light after the "luis sinco" article yesterday. for those not aware of it he, called out the Mayor of dumaguete city in a social media post, taking him to task on certain issues. I would assume that if he Luis was not Filipino and the member of a prominent family, the mayor would have declared him persona non grata?
     
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    Agree 100%. When I'm told to "go home" if I have something to object against, I just can't figure out where they mean. Home is where I live. I live in Santander & Valencia.
    Once you invest, start and run business, pay taxes, employe people, one might think you have some degree of say about how those tax money are spent without risking being through out of your new home.
     
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    Filipino pride. Anyone living here long enough, should know that Filipinos cannot take criticism, no matter how well intentioned.
     
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    I would agree if the hosts were being completely honest. However, most pictures taken of beaches to attract these "guests" look like this:
    puerto-galera-talipanan-beach3.jpg

    But reality, many times just out of view of that picture to attract tourists, is this:
    all-drains-lead-to-the-ocean.jpg

    You better believe you are going to have some pissed off tourists. When your "hosts" are lying to attract tourists and make money people SHOULD post the reality online to warn others. The reason this guy wasn't hit with a libel case was because his intentions were to warn others, not tarnish the image of the municipality.

    Also, I wouldn't consider everyone here as "guests". If you are married to a Filipina and here on a marriage visa you are no longer a guest in my book. Once someone gets any type of residence visa they are no longer there as a tourist (guest).

    I do agree that the guy was a bit naive to think he could post and say such things in a country with such thin egos, but that doesn't make what he did wrong.
     
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  5. Rye83

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    I think the terms "guests" and "hosts" do not apply to countries as a whole. Nobody invited me to the Philippines.....they posted pictures online and said "look what we have", these were mostly lies (or more of an omission of the truth). Tourism is an industry, not a private abode. If an industry is making money off of lies then people should be warned about it before spending their money on in said industry.

    However, the Philippines lives, politically, in an alternate universe and the guy went about it the wrong way. He should have went to the Department of Health and asked what could have been done or presented a solution to the problem, not just thrown it up on social media in a seemingly self serving manner, attention getting manner. It seems to me the guy didn't want anything to do with helping clean up the place, he was calling on other to take action for his benefit. He doesn't seem to have any interest in being part of the community. I find these attitudes downright selfish and annoying. This whole persona non grata sh*t has to stop though. It is childish and makes the Philippines look bad. Persona non grata is supposed to be an action taken against unwelcome diplomats, not a catch all law to restrict freedom of speech and other basic human rights.
     
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    I hate to say this, but this seems to be another worldwide human phenomenon - the "in people and the out people". Yes, you may be always be viewed by some as a foreigner - even after you have been bestowed with (and fairly earned) full rights of citizenship. But I sure as hell wouldn't let those small-minded few EVER control my destiny an passon.

    Heck, if I had a business, employed locals, created tax revenue, paid taxes, lived in two houses, and didn't have a voice or a vote, I'd sure be looking at attaining full rights of citizenship.

    And I'd be smiling all the way to the bank. Having citizenship when one already has so much to offer will put more playing cards into your hands.

    You can play with what you have in your hands now, or with citizenship, you can draw from the deck. Even if the deck is stacked against you and you don't draw an "Ace", it's still a card you can play you didn't have before.

    The man or woman that has accomplished as much as having a successful business, two homes and everything else attendant to that, has done well and are NOT the dull knives in the drawer.

    You make the best of the hand you are dealt - and you smile all the way to the bank.

    I read a story one time about the first self-made woman millionaire in America. A woman who, about 100 years ago, who started with nothing and turned herself into the first independently made, self-made woman millionaire in America.

    The woman happened to be an African-American. I can only imagine the challenges she must have had 100 years ago in a white, male-only business world. Not to mention the stigma her color back then must have been in the "hoity-toity" upper-class society circles she probably was never invited into or rarely asked to be a part of.

    But I imagine she probably laughed all the way to the bank.

    So should you. Look at the donut at not at the hole, right?

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    :wideyed: Seems it is a new word/phrase they have learned and will push it to the Limit as they have done with the Word, Lend :whistling:

    JP :bag: :banghead:
     
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    I would love to agree but in 2016 you may change your mind on this a little. :wink:

    Just saying :pompus:

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    If you are invited to dine with your "host", and your host gets a big piece of GREEN spinach in his teeth, and, every single time he opens his mouth this piece of crap ruins his smile -
    Well, do you tell him of this politely, or do you not let him know and just pretend it's not there? Even though everyone in the room can see it on his teethe except for the Host himself, there is a diplomatic way to approach this that will allow him to "save face".

    Praise in public but criticize in private. Allowing someone the "out" of "saving face" oftentimes will get the spinach off the Host's teeth AND the person doing the "calling out" will gain respect from the Host, too. This can come in handy as saved capital that can be spent at a later date for another time of "spinach in the teeth".

    Now I realize the Host may not give a d*mn. But at least you allowed him the option to "save face" first. When the Host realizes that spinach on the teeth makes him look bad, oftentimes this may be enough for the Host to make a clean sweep.

    Bitching about things serves no forward purpose. But bitching about something in a polite way and not personalizing it, PLUS offering a solution will work wonders.

    Be part of the solution - have a solution - and you'd be surprised at just how much more cooperation you can garner.

    Look for the "win-win".

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    At least this guy has some locals with a bit of common sense backing him up.
    The guy who talked smack about the immigration wasn't using his head. Of all the government offices to talk crap about that is probably the worst one to do it to.
     
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