I stand corrected. Turns out this is fairly common, to which I say: "f*ck 'em, send them back to the desert."
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The Saudis are rich in relation to their size/population but they have had to cut back due to the price of oil. At present income Saudis would be broke in about 6 years (from news reports and analysis some say 5 years). I believe with the cuts that the revolution would come before then. The Saudi people were promised billions of dollars in public works so they wouldn't stage their own arab spring. The house of Saud will renege on that at their peril. Third generation welfare recipients get testy when they think they are not getting their due. Dangerous to control your population by putting them on the payroll and requiring nothing from them except they not revolt. What can they do to show their displeasure when the money is reduced or stops? The one thing you were paying them not to do?
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Just a thought...the figures seem slightly out of date, but makes for a good read...
Refugee population by country or territory of asylum | Data | Table
I'll 'come out' too. I'm a shrink with a specialism in children's trauma. I get parachuted into some refugee camps in the ME to advise on how to best handle situations in crisis now and again in the sheer weight of numbers overwhelming infrastructure. I can't remember the exact ratios but for example Jordan/Lebanon have in the range of 2-6m folks born and bred there but are hosting about an additional 20-30% as refugees...so Arabs do their bit. The house of Saud plays a canny game however...they are s.hit scared that additional refugee populations will eventually disturb their power.
Humanitarian issues aside for the moment, I'm sure not many would relish that oil rich nation falling into the hands of extremists.
I haven't got the answers to this, but I am sure it is a whole lot more complex than jingo-is tic nimbyism.
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Where is the House of Saud today? And where was the House of Saud in all this? And all the other ME nations? The House of Saud was busy making trillions of USD from worldwide oil sales and becoming the third largest military firepower nation in the ME (Israel and Iran are #1 & #2).
Middle East Powers Ranked by Military Strength
When did the House of Saud ever give a meaningful crap to any nation or people outside of it's own borders?
I don't have any meaningful solutions to much of this mess. But I know I am tired of thinking that my nation has lost a lot of blood and treasure for a whole lot of what? - nothing.
If solutions are to be genuine and real, methinks it takes ACTIVE participation from ALL nations in the ME, too. Otherwise, those non-ME nations who DO the heavy lifting in/for/on behalf of the ME will continue to be treated like the "Nanny-State a$$-wipes" the House of Saud thinks we are as that's the perception many Americans have of how Saudi Arabia has treated their non-Muslim nation-friends (US/EU/UK, etc.).
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And why aren't the European countries not asking their ME nation-neighbors to step up and do more? I realize one or two of the ME countries are claiming they are at the brim with immigrants and some cannot take any more. But what of the others?
Methinks these countries need to stop being be part of the problem and begin to become part of the solutions.
I don't blame the refugees -- but I do wish the European nations and the US could put this issue (and others) at the feet of the ME nations as THEY ought to be the first-line solution leaders with this forced diaspora of ME peoples, many of who would prefer to be temporarily sheltered closer to their home countries anyway.
Why aren't these ME countries practicing what they preach - to be their brother's keeper in times of need, too? It's not as if the ME is a bunch of Broke-a$$ nations....
Methinks it may be time to re-set the storyline AND the punchline here. When you play a part in the breaking of something (intentionally, "accidentally", or through "benign neglect/ignorance" - whatever the excuse), then you do have a part to play in the restitution and/or reconstruction.
You break it -- you buy it.
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UK is already on The highest alert. Quicker Europe closes her borders the better, and The UK leaves The EC. In fact better the whole of EC have a referendum.
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