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  1. Brian Oinks

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    I agree wholeheartedly regards the Vitamin thing here! IF they eat a balanced diet then there is NO NEED for vitamins unless they have some sickly ailment! I have refused point blank to take anymore Vitamins my Wife keeps trying to stuff into me and I am trying to get her to look at forcing the daughter into eating MORE healthy vegetables and LESS Rice! The wife was terrible embarrassed when the PUBLIC SCHOOL diagnosed our Daughter as malnourished and anemic because she did not measure up to their graph! ARRGGHH!! :rage: I went through this BS back in Oz back in the 90's when our Son was undersize according to School Graphs and we were forced to take him to a Pediatrician to look at giving him growth hormones so he would be 'normal'... I REFUSED and TF I did as it later turned out as it was later linked to Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) so I would have in effect given him a death sentence!

    Sorry but my 2 cents;
    Children SHOULD eat a balanced Diet of Vegetables and Meat for Protein, Fruits and drink lots of water AFTER their meal not before and during as it fills them up too quickly! The Daughter here eats Rice, TOO MUCH RICE! The other thing I have done is stopped them eating the fat from Pork! too many bad habits form early in age, I have friends back in Oz who's children did not know what to do with a normal meal of Meat & Vegetables I shared with my children as all they ever ate was take-away and those kids were terribly obese and ADD/ADHD from the sh*t they pushed down their throats!

    STOP ALL JUNK FOODS SOFT DRINKS AND OTHER RUBBISH and get back to basics!

    Oh and my Brother was a Chronic Asthmatic spending the first few years of his life mainly in Hospital, one day a Naturopath told my Mother to take him to the Salt water (River/Sea) and find someone who could teach him to swim as it would strengthen his lungs and the salt is better than Asthma medications, within a couple of years there was no looking back! He went on to become a professional Fisherman and Skipper and never suffers from Asthma anymore, he was probably 8 or 10 when he was last sick from it.

    With my second Wife and the boys being Mama's boys getting/doing what they wanted, meant some very bad behaviour, after a long period with Pediatricians etc we went down the ADD/ADHD route and following what was in the books, we changed their diet from Junk Foods/ Red Foods/ Over-ripe Fruits etc that are high in sugar and the change in their behaviour was nothing short of a miracle! The sh*t you get in packaged Foods today is I believe a BIG PART of the problem!

    Get back to basics like we once lived, FRESH Vegetables FRESH Meat More Water instead of Sodas etc... A lot of this seems to be the New Epidemic, when I went to School there were maybe TWO Fat kids in the whole of Primary and High School, look today and TRY and find the SKINNY KID! :o o:
     
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    That certainly isn't the case with the situation I outlined in my posts in this thread. The patient in question is more than capable (and willing) of going back for checkups, and has been back to the hospital for every checkup requested of her by the doctors.

    I don't think the majority of posts here were negative. Most users were just offering advice.

    I think the reason most Filipino doctors aren't effing off to other countries is because they aren't good enough to work overseas. When universities (and one of the top universities in the country at that) has a 100% board exam passing rate there is something seriously wrong with the education system. Even if they are cherry picking students to take the exam there is absolutely no way to get 100% pass rate so many years in a row.
     
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    Nurse here...husband had chronic COPD for over 30 years and asthma, 2 kids with asthma. NO, they cannot definitively diagnose asthma (if there is no prior history) with a current diagnosis of pneumonia. They must first resolve the pneumonia, and after given a certain amount of time for complete healing of the pneumonia, if symptoms recur or persist, lung function tests can then be performed to effectively diagnose asthma. What doctor are you seeing?
     
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  4. Dave_Hounddriver

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    OK. I am positive that all who study to be a doctor at Silliman University will pass!
    Silliman University Medical School - Wikipedia
    It is a positive feeling for the idiot kid in my subdivision that he is sure to graduate, even though he is currently getting failing grades, but it does not instill me with confidence for Philippine doctors who have not yet paid their dues. It is why we share notes and stories on this forum. No-one wants to get stuck with an idiot doctor and we respect the referrals to the ones who have earned respect.
     
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    No Doctor unfortunately. She studied Nutrition and Diet.
    The Philippines has board exams for several disciplines; Doctors, Nurses, Social Workers, Med-techs. Engineers, accountants, dentists etc. To retain their certifications they have to attend a number of seminars in a given period of time.
    My step-daughter had an interesting job. She worked at a startup company that designed custom diets for diabetics, kidey patients, people that wanted to loss weight/gain weight, cardiac condition, high blood pressure patients etc.. Her deal was that she would design diets and attract clients and get profit sharing once they achieved X clients. To make a long story short when the company hit X patients the boss didn't want to share the profits or hire another cook. The boss told my step daughter to start cooking and she told them where to get off.
    I'm very proud of her for having nerves.
     
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    10 Best Medical Schools in the Philippines - SeriousMD Blog
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    Silliman is not the only school with 100% passing rate. I thought I read somewhere that Silliman was one of the best institution in the Philippines, could have been years ago, but they didn't show up in the couple of medical lists I looked at. It seems that rating is largely determined by pass rate, so it's interesting that they don't show up.

    From
    Doctor of Medicine - Top schools by board exam passing rates

    Silliman is at 93%
    • Based on the results of 4 board exams:
      Sep 2017, Mar 2017, Sep 2016, Mar 2016
     
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    Doc here, unfair to the profession. I missed the lesson on breathing in med school, but did catch up on feet, the stuff that whizzes about under our skin and is red and how to fiddle about when reconstructing knees and look flash at the same time in front of first and second year interns. I later just about managed a fair to middling career in Psychiatry. Kids mainly and had a hand in discovering one or two bits of your brains that get shut down if you get bashed about a lot by a parent/bad Uncle/whoever when you are tiny that govern important things like self regulation or empathy.

    Of course there are good n bad in all professions, and I absolutely concur about the state of the average Filipino kids diet....but hang on, let's not tar the whole trade. Most docs here will tell you they are fighting a losing battle on most fronts, funding, treatment options, infrastructure and so on; let alone most patients don't come back for follow ups as they can't afford it/they feel better and have stopped the course they need to finish even though they'll have to sell the family cow for the next consult' when the problem comes back again twice as bad.

    I admire 'em for not quitting when graduated and effing off to the overseas smoke for the bigger bucks. Must be heartbreaking to run a Pedias clinic in Holy Child day in day out, or manage an Oncology unit even at Silliman. Something a little more positive please?
     
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    Absolutely!! Pulmonology...he can effectively diagnose, and treat if necessary, asthma and pneumonia!
     
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    The issue is it is recurrent. The kid has never needed an inhaler or any medication for asthma in the past. I think the choking on food and drinks, which is a known issue the kid has, is responsible for the pneumonia. I'm suggesting an old school GP in Valencia for future visits. Hopefully his practice, ran out of his home, is still open and he hasn't retired. (I have used him myself in the past and really liked the way he ran his practice. No making a mountain out of a mole hill. No 4 day hospitalization for IVs. Just "you have pneumonia, take these antibiotics, drink lots of water, you'll live". He just gave off that feeling of "experience".)
     
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    Seems simple enough to me.......cure the pneumonia and see if there are still breathing issues. One thing at a time. Asthma isn't a curable disease, so give them an inhaler for the time being. If they need it after the pneumonia resolves itself, then they probably have asthma.
     
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