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The good folks At Cat's & Dogs. Dr Michele and crew were great! My Doberman (Sheba) delivered 4 pups naturally and I knew there were more inside. To make a long story short, after trying to induce labor it was clear to save Sheba's life she needed a ceasarion and spayed. The surgury went off without a hitch and 3 out of the 4 pups inside survived and are doing well. Dr. Michele and staff were fantastic! They had Sheba in an air con private room and stayed up all night with Mom and pups. Only have to remove the stitches now.
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The great debate about purebred and mutts. If you surf the internet the opinions are quite strong for both ends and quite passionate in many cases.
As dog lovers we have both mutts and purebred dogs. I have 2 whose mother is half Belgian Malinois and half Dalmatian (came from pups we had before) and father seems to be quite the mix and a smaller dog (still impressed that he got her knocked up). Those pups came from a good friend who got the mom from us years ago. Great dogs; the male (fixed) shows more looks and traits of the mother while the female seems to have the super short coat and coloration of the father and being quite a bit smaller.
We also have a smaller mutt that I was told the mother was a Japanese spitz mix...she looks like a slightly larger Chihuahua to me. Who knows for sure, but she is a little sweetheart.
The decision for a purebred dogs is for a number of reasons in my opinion; you really like that breed and/or you plan to breed them. If anyone has read my posts can probably figure out we are huge fans of the Belgian Malinois. They are a great family pet; protective, loyal and can be intimidating to folks that may be thinking of going where they should not be. The wife also wanted to breed them; we actually have a litter that she is working on sorting out the PCCI paperwork (everything goes to the PCCI office in Manila) before she lists them for their next families.
We also have a purebred PCCI papered Siberian Husky...the plan was to maybe later breed her to another papered Husky; but best laid plans....even after all assurances from the lovely wife that she would be kept away from our Belgian male when in heat she had 3 pups early this morning. The wife did not even suspect she was pregnant until she starting acting weird last night. A bit disappointed as that was not the plan, but it is what it is. That Belgian of ours has now fathered 3 litters...I'll have to advertise him later as a stud.
I've also purchased a Papillon puppy here in Korea to keep me company and eventually find his way to the Philippines. I'm working on getting his purebred paperwork; hoping like hell that it will be accepted by the PCCI because the wife's plan later will be to enter him into the various dog shows and they need to be registered with the PCCI. Beautiful breed and really fits the micro living here in Korea; his 2nd vet visit since I've had him he was up to 1.1 kilo.
The other debate is nature vs. nurture; I believe dogs are inherently good and want to serve their humans and raised correctly they can all be good dogs. Obviously, they have been bred over thousands of years so those traits need to be taken into account when you decide on bringing a dog into your home as well as the parents traits and how they've been socialized as pups from the beginning.
Sorry for the long post but I find this an interesting topic to discuss.
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We have 3 cats and 2 dogs registered with them. Regular visits for vaccinations and the dogs have just been neutered. All has gone very well. The vet explains everything clearly and the staff are all polite and helpful. I got a price from another vets in town for the neutering just to compare, and Cats & Dogs were much cheaper. Unsurprisingly, the other place was empty both times I've been there (also went once for some medication C & D did not have). I would highly recommend them on performance and value so far.
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And non-pedigrees are often so much tougher and longer-lived due to hybrid vigour. Some pedigrees are so in-bred they have a bad start from the moment of conception.
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Just a heads up for those that use "Cats & Dogs" vets in Bagacay, in case anyone is not aware, They are moving Tomorrow 15th September to San Jose Extension off Larena Drive. It is a Pink Complex on the right just before the Memorial Park
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I had a miniature pinscher with PI Kennel Club papers that I always had to take to the vet for injections and buying the best food for 8 years. High maintenance cost a lot. Sadly, he died from poisoning.
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A good example of nurture, using a local dog in the Philippines as an example; say you are given/adopt a local dog, you make sure she has all shots, deworming, tick/flea medicine, fed a quality food (debatable on what is quality), a family pet that is part of the human's life and well socialized with various people to include children and other pets. Now you run across one of the littermates that were ignored, fed fishheads and rice (plus whatever it could scrounge from garbage or such), was never petted...you see where I'm going. Now these 2 dogs are related but are really different dogs.
I personally find both purebred and mutts to be fine dogs, depending on what you are looking for. Purebred dogs were from extensive breeding of various dogs to get what was desired; many times inbred to get those traits.
Since dogs have been bred for those thousands of years to have different traits that were useful they have ended up very different in the obvious things such as size, color, temperament, working ability, lap dogs, show dogs, agility dogs...the list goes on.
Folks have bred purebred dogs, by plan or by accident to other purebred dogs; this does not mean they know what they are getting in the pups. Obviously if the dogs have similar size and temperament you can have a bit of an idea what the mixed pups will have a tendency for (if both breeds love to dig your yard the pups probably will as well).
For me personally I now have three pups from my Siberian Husky fathered by my Belgian Malinois; very different breeds in my opinion. A Siberian loves to meet everyone that stops by the house, the Belgian wants to meet you only if the family is OK with it. Our Belgian is on constant guard duty with various posts set up and will let us know with some extreme barking if any goat, cow or noisy motor bike happens to pass by, the Siberian will try her best to talk to you in her own language and howl when she thinks no one is listening to her.
Those two breeds have been crossed before so there is some info about that but it will be a month or more before we start getting an idea on what the pups are going to be. Cute pups from the pics I've seen, interesting coloration. I'll see them next week when I get home.
Cool that most folks posted are good with mutts; I hope more people adopt a dog and give it a better life than it would normally have...plus neutering and most shots are free for your pets from the city vet.
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