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  1. Rye83

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    Well the Philippines does have a president that heavily promotes and glorifies the use of violence to achieve goals and resolve problems. Did his supporters really think that only they would be allowed to use such tactics?
     
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    It’s the Wild Wild West in Negros Oriental.
     
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    The Police are saying it’s the NPA, but we all know how credible the police are nowadays.

    Word on the ground says different. The same group of 30 to 40 men, armed to the teeth and very organized. The hits aren’t random as well. Some people think it’s just the governments way of creating chaos so they’ll have a reason to impose martial law in Negros.
     
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    They can, but, if untrue, that is defamation and is illegal...with it being a criminal offense in the Philippines.

    The Philippine government has done a lot about them. Look at their numbers decades ago vs now.

    As for why they still exist: because the government treats the lower-class like garbage. When you take your ideas to extremes, force them on others and treat a large swath of your society like crap you are going to inevitably create an extreme opposing view. It is how it has always worked and it is how it will always continue to work. Hate begets hate, violence begets violence. There is nothing new in this world, just recycled history. If the Philippines continues down its current path we already know how it will end.
     
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    “DUMAGUETE CITY -- A former mayor, his cousin, a councilor, and a barangay captain were killed in two separate shooting incidents in Ayungon town and Canlaon City in Negros Oriental early Saturday.

    Sketchy reports from the Negros Oriental Provincial Police Office identified the victims as former Ayungon mayor Edsel Gimang Enardecido, 60; his cousin, Leo Enardecido, 45; Canlaon City Councilor Ramon Jalandoni, 65, of Barangay Panubigan; and Barangay Captain Ernesto Posadas of Panubigan, Canlaon City.

    The first shooting incident took place in Canlaon City at around 12:14 a.m. when unidentified armed men, believed to be members of the New People’s Army (NPA), barged into the house of Jalandoni and shot him dead.

    The gunmen marked Jalandoni’s car and a wall of his house with “Mabuhay ang NPA… Ibagsak si Duterte (Long live the NPA... Down with Duterte)”.

    Some 26 minutes later, at about 12:40 a.m., unidentified armed men also forced their way into the house of Posadas and gunned him down. The suspects also wrote “Mabuhay ang NPA” on a wall of the victim's house before leaving in a white van.

    Police investigators in Canlaon City believed gunmen from the same group killed both Canlaon officials based on the pattern of the crimes.

    Meanwhile in Ayungon, an initial police report said unidentified armed men entered the house of former mayor Enardecido in Barangay Tampocon I at about r2:30 a.m. and shot him dead. His cousin, Leo Enardecido was killed in the same attack.

    Police has reported 15 people killed in different parts of Negros Oriental in the past two days.

    Negros Oriental Governor Roel Degamo is slated to hold a press conference at noon Saturday to address the spate of killings in the province, which has escalated following the July 18 slay of four policemen in Ayungon.

    The Philippine National Police is yet to ascertain whether all the shooting incidents are related. (PNA)”
     
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    I was born in Dumaguete now living in Canada. I will visit Dumaguete in August to see if I could retire there in a few years. This recent spate of killings is telling someone wants to get noticed, to be relevant. Random victims. Pretty sure some are innocent. I cant believe this is happening to my quiet and mostly academic province. I dont think this is happening in other provinces. Many of my classmates are now living good lives abroad, sending money to our classmates in Duma to organize annual founder's day events in August and support less fortunates classmates. To my fellow expats, please lie low for now. Avoid becoming more visible and let the government finish its job. Just sharing. Thanks
     
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    300 Special Action Police have been deployed to Negros Oriental.
     
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    True - and do serious groups usually write slogans at the places of killings?
     
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    My asawa told me of her childhood on the mountain. When the NPA was around her family had a hole that they would spend the night in. At night the NPA would sleep in the family's hut and eat their chickens.

    Please substantiate your comment that they only tax "private businesses".

    Some people see the NPA as an extortion gang. Similar to the Mafia in New York that demands protection money. Or MS-13 in El Salvador that demands protection money. The only difference is that the NPA portrays themselves as being for the people.

    Even Hamas has a social services wing:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Social_services_wing

    If you believe the NPA is an organization for social justice, please show what services they provide for the people.
     
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    The NPA does mainly attack the government. Almost all of their attacks are on the police, military or politicians. They do threaten/harass/demand "revolutionary taxes" from private businesses but that should be expected from a group that thinks all business should be owned and operated by the government (communism). The military and police also have their flaws with attacking innocent civilians.

    The government actively patrols and fights the npa. I have been in regions where I have ran across both military patrols and npa checkpoints. Ignore the military, pay the NPA "revolutionary tax" and go about your business. Neither of the two groups care about or pay much attention to civilians, especially expats.
     
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