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  1. Happy Camper

    Happy Camper DI Senior Member Restricted Account Infamous Showcase Reviewer

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    Wife went out today. Many seniors in Lee Plaza and at Yan Yan and taking advantage of the senior lanes. Maybe there is more common sense being applied than thought.

    Seniors are different yes. We have different needs too. How many have had their routine medical exams cancelled? I have had two so far.

    We don't harm anyone, we use caution. I for one really don't like crowds and all of the pushing and jostling that is pretty common around here, so if that changes it is a plus for me. Most just like to get out once in a while, relax casually and maybe converse with other expat or simply have a beverage of choice, read a book or browse the internet. Just to know that life is still worth living.

    We are not complaining or whining or making excuses like some insinuate. We just want to put some quality into our life too. And with absolutely zero positive tests in over 30 days, I would think it is pretty safe, since 30 days is well past the incubation period. Seems like any new cases would have to smuggled in.
     
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  2. jimeve

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    Went to Robinson's this morning, long waiting lines to go in and they were asking the old folk their age, if over 60 you would be turned away but if you lied about your age and said 59 years old sir they would let you in. I got in no problem and I'm 66 years old.
    There were a lot of foreigners 59 years old. Coincidence or what.
     
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  3. djfinn6230

    djfinn6230 DI Senior Member

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    Yes, absolutely. May 7. Getting close though. May Day holiday today, cannot pay, celebrating the struggle of the socialist proletariat working class against the greedy capitalist bourgeoisie! Nothing open. Best wishes to all of the Communists of the group :joke: We are very appreciative of the many DI members who gave pm’d us offline with their AWESOME and sincere offers to help!!! What a group! This Wuhan virus will return every year for several years in the future, long after today’s elders have kicked the obligatory bucket and will probably return for decades years until it us dioecious out like smallpox and polio. On a more practical level, I have figured out that having the wife crying to the local Barangay captain actually works, even if unintended (she was very sincere, a true Filipina). I wanted to share that; putting yourself at their mercy may require ingestion of humble pie but it may be especially effective when sincere (everyone loves a big of reality show drama).We now know that barangays may be empowered to add some relief to the elder ban if they want, but: You must be sincere and try very hard. The certification they gave us was beautifully written and us effective for the DURATION of the quarantine. Wow. Kudus to our Barangay!


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  4. djfinn6230

    djfinn6230 DI Senior Member

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    Discussion groups everywhere include posters such as this, where he/she obviously knows more than the rest and rises above the fray in his sort of manufactured and almost troll-like indignation, similar to that other troll. We are discussing actual problems that seniors do have here in real life. Using his own methaphor, he certainly is speaking out of one hole but I will not say which one.

    Red-herring assertion. Are you just making that up?

    You are pretty quick to bend over and get you know what-ed :lol:

    Let me give you another perspective; many are here (maybe even you) are SRRV holders and are not only guests but members of the a Philippine Retirement Authority, an organization that tells us ‘it is better in the Philippines’. From PRA membership we derive many useful privileges such as diplomatic priority check-in when going thru Immigration etc.. The point is, they want you to retire here and for good reason: At least previous administrations here recognized the benefits of Western foreign exchange to Filipinos. They want to make your life here as trouble free as possible so you stay here and encourage others to come. They are not the like the Bureau of Immigration that I suspect that you are used to. You deposit lots of money into a PRA account, they will give you a permanent resident visa as a paid guest. Yes, as your enlightened 5 yo knows, OF COURSE we must follow the rules but we also have a right as members, and even the responsibility, to help PRA improve senior retiree experiences in future lockdowns which, btw, are almost guaranteed to happen. Examples of things that will have negative impacts to their business model in attracting future retirees are 1) arbitrary and unexpected elder bans that do not occur in other countries and, 2) alcohol prohibitions, given the fondness of fermented tastes for many in that group. Closing bars and banning public boozing is understandable but extending that to Prohibition of store sales; stopping the consumption of beverages at home has no impact on outside spread the disease. It reeks of enforcement of some unwanted good-heath agenda or religious moral code. Carrie Nation with her keg-destroying hatchet would be proud haha. PRA member-customers will almost certainly be making big noises to PRA about these and other unnecessary measures when they make their next visit to DGTE for SRRV member meetings, and, although nothing can be accomplished right now, perhaps this joint Department of Tourism/Private enterprise organization will exercise an albeit minor influence to deal with retirees here in future lockdowns, maybe proposing to regulators better thought-out and less arbitrary policies for their (and all) retirees.

    But only if we b*tch.

    After all, ultimately, it is all market-driven. People can walk, too.

    Note: Recent information indicates possible relaxation of senior bans (not total elimination) in the Visayas . Hope it is true.

    Sure, you control your 5 year old as I controlled my kids when they were little. Hint: 5 yo is easy! But it will be more challenging when he gets a bit older and begins to think, without directly telling you, that half of what you are saying is pure made-up bullish*t. Not to be arrogant, that is life.
     
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  5. djfinn6230

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    We just went through those two checkpoints on Jose Romero road (Valencia Dumaguete road). They just waved us through at the boundary and in Talay, both ways, and they did not bother to look at our new special certificate. Our certificate appears to be valid for the “duration” so we will be able to handle utility payments next week. Thank God!


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    Thanks. I thought of that but learned that today is the May Day holiday so government offices are closed; however, the barangay was very moved by conversation with Asawa (I didn’t pick up all of the cebuano discussion) and said they would contact the LGU (don’t know who/what that local govt unit is). They just called now and told us to go to the barangay office this afternoon for a special certificate so it’s looking better (I think). Have to remember to ask them to make it effective for Monday as I assume banks are closed today. Or hopefully, multiple days effectivity.


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  7. Rye83

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    I'm pretty confident the governor would count as a "proper authority". Dumaguete Awareness is no more an official source or subject matter expert than any member on this forum is. (Well, maybe more than some people here.)

    BTW, you might want to check that FB page again. They posted the new rules from the EO in an infographic yesterday afternoon.
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    Funny that they aren't even using the governor as an official source and are breaking their own guidelines by posting another non-government FB page.

    A lot of cognitive bias going on here. People are only reading what they want to believe and stopping there...as if no new information is being put out after the post they agreed with was made. It is willful ignorance.
     
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  8. Always a Poppy

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    Note that the Gov is quoted as saying that this is necessary 'for a few days,,,,,'. That may be a hint that he's targeting May 15th as the next date for further relaxation (or may not). My theory is that he's spinning it out until then just to be seen to comply with national government recommendations in case anything goes wrong (further outbreak). The release of virus test numbers seems to suggest this too. Close to a hundred swab tests were sent off several days ago, but we've had only a handful of results. Seems to me the results are being stretched out, firstly to enable a good news story each day and secondly to justify the GCQ (and addendum). With some cases still undetermined, there's still a doubt. Clearly politicians are looking for ultimate political survival beyond this weird period (that's normal behaviour).

    Mostly just theory, but based on publicly available knowledge.
     
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    RR_biker DI Senior Member Veteran Marines

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    It's ridiculous of course, since the driver and the passenger are family related. But to have more fun in the PH, just do it, to avoid an useless never ending discussion with the people doing the check.
     
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  10. djfinn6230

    djfinn6230 DI Senior Member

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    Roque mentioned yesterday that there were many complaints about the ban and that LGU’s were meeting about it so I believe you are correct.


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