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  1. TheDude

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    In general it does. If you didn't have the means to engineer a reliable income which puts you above 50% of (stick with my example) Americans then how are you going to have the means to engineer a bail-out plan?

    Note: Mean (50%) household income in the U.S. would put each earner at about the level which @furriner has quoted.

    If you don't have that income, then you're broke anywhere outside your home country. Stay home and figure out how to make more money if you want to move to a different country.

    Otherwise your bail-out plan is to ask friends and family for money. You should ask them if they are okay with being your bail-out plan before you do this though.

    People who have lots of money and can't put together a USD $3K income are just stupid and I'm not sure they exist. Your resources (investments) should be generating this much if you have a large nest egg. We don't have to worry about these people though, so let's not get stuck on this point.

    Once you can check that box, then live how you like. Spend every cent that you can sustainably allocate of a monthly budget or live well below that means.
     
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  2. liannastar

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    Isnt there an old saying like a penny saved is a penny earned?

    What exactly is the difference between being able to live simple and on small income because you are a person who can give up expensive habits and things you are accustomed to vs living like a king because you have more than adequate resources?

    The only differnece I see is in the person imo.

    Also, living simple and on limited resources doesn't have to go hand in hand with having no bail out plan. Everyone should have a plan B that is well thought out, funded, and untouched!

    And I will end this post with what I have always say.. Moving to PI to retire is NOT for everyone.. In fact, for most people, it is not.
     
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  3. liannastar

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    Yes my comment was very basic, and didn't go deep as you did. But I'm not going to draw out every scenario where one would feel this way or that way. I was giving my opinion based on my own experiences.

    Never said there is something wrong with living a certain lifestyle anywhere in the world. But since the poster said 3k = a poor life in the Philippines, I was pointing out why that may be the case for him.

    Definitely agree with you that it's going to cost you a fortune if you want to live that way, also evidenced by the poster stating that 3k a month (which happens to be a fortune) in the PI was not cutting it for him and his family.

    And yes, definitely a Westerner can't give up everything they had in their homeland as you mentioned. But you can pick and choose what you want to keep and what you don't want to keep based on analysis of is the high cost really worth it to you to not make the sacrifice?

    Personally, the only thing I need is a house, aircon at night when I sleep, and a reliable car. Those things aren't going to cost me 3k a month.. not even close.
     
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  4. Rye83

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    These comments are simplistic and blatantly ignore the reasons why people talk and ask about things from their home country.

    There is nothing wrong with living whatever lifestyle you want to live anywhere in the world. Just know that living up to every standard of a "Western lifestyle" is going to cost a god-d*mn fortune in the Philippines. Of course, anybody thinking they are going to move to another country half way across the world and live a life exactly like their home country is also d*mn fool...but I seriously doubt anyone is talking about that or thinking that they will be able to do so

    It is good for people to know the differences and what they could be potentially missing from home. There will always be something that a person isn't willing to give up from their native culture. I'm sure both of you two haven't fully adopted Filipino products and culture and given up things from your home country...that arrogant holier-than-thou attitude being one of them. Since everyone is different there are going to be a lot of things brought up to see if the country is compatible with the individual's needs.

    And the comment "if you're really worried about your budget, don't marry a local" is....I don't know how to explain it other than "idiotic". Only billionaires shouldn't be "worried" about their budget. Everyone needs to figure out the lifestyle they want and can afford, especially in a foreign country that has zero social nets for you. Only a buffoon would go into a foreign country blindly without any worry for cultural and economic differences. And marrying a local isn't any more expensive than having a live-in partner. And I would argue that a good partner is going to save you just about as much as they costs you. Thinking you are going to save money running around all by yourself with that skin and long nose...lol good one.
     
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  5. furriner

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    The “median” income is per person so a married couple in the US making 3K is equivalent to 6k household income or 72k as you say. Yes, that is pretty good in the US and very good for the Phils.. Something people moving here do not realize is that if they retire and settle down at 3K household income or 36k, they can become trapped, unable to afford moving back to the US. It is very hard to re-settle back home on that income; I know people in that situation and they would have go back and live with the kids, even if their 1.5k per person is relatively ok in the Philippines where they are settled down. And as long as there are no financial or political calamities, everything is fine. With 3K per person, one should be able to “bug out” if the time ever comes, or move back to the US and use Medicare if their health fails here in a way that even Philippine medical costs are in the millions of pesos for healthcare that is not as good. I always recommend American friends to keep paying for Medicare B and medigap because they will usually be able to go back to the US after they are stabilized here. Yes, in the bigger cities here and even Dumaguete you do not need a car or motorbike but it can be a bit inconvenient in those tricycles. They are dirt cheap. For insurance, we all must buy auto insurance when we register but the max payout is so low that the 2000 php you pay is not worth it. I think it is a standard coverage with no optional coverage but purchasing it is mandatory if inconsequential to your budget. So I guess we basically agree. On this forum I have been criticized before for saying 3K for a couple borders on marginal but single people who bring in 3 k are doing very well here. I am talking about 3K per married couple which I still think, for living a western lifestyle, is OK but not too much slack unless they own their house and there is the danger of being “trapped”.


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    A budget 3k is impossible. Silliman mothers visit my tent under the mango tree once a week. I spoiled them on imported wines. Daughter’s clothes shipped via Amazon. Atmosphere, Coco Grove, Marco Polo, RadBlu, Plantation Bay..Kav’s, Mike’s...Casablanca, Why Not, KRI, Grumpy’s, feel like I’am obligated to support the businesses. Daughter’s birthday at the first four properties. CG twice, MP again next weekend. I cannot eat at the Filipino restaurants.

    Is my daughter spoiled...Absolutely!
     
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  7. liannastar

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    You make a great point! Some people go there because they are "taking one for the team" and had false hope of being able to handle the change. Trust me, as I'm sure you are aware, moving and living there is not for most people! Especially Western people!


    But, if you go into it with a good attitude, and realistic expectations, you can do it.
     
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  8. furriner

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    Exactly. Not everyone came here to live cheaply. Some of us came because we promised our wives we would retire here, where she has family and friends and familiar culture and we thought it was a great idea because there is some truth in the statement “It’s more fun in the Philippines” and we love the people.


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    Good luck getting your Filipina wife to return to the Philippines if she is really happy where she is now. I have Filipina sisters in law who moved to the US from the Philippines in the 70's and have never once had a desire to move back, or visit for that matter. It is my observation that once most Filipina's move to other countries, they do not wish to return to the Philippines permanently. I won't say they are all that way, as I know of some who have returned.
     
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  10. ShawnM

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    Condescending much? The OP topic wasn't about this but it was called...

    Shawn
     
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