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  1. SkipJack

    SkipJack DI Senior Member

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    Please be careful naming people online. It may be construed as libel.
     
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    SkipJack, Jul 22, 2019
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    The same thing would have been done by any respectable lawyer in any country. The job is to make sure your client is getting a fair shake. Not knowing who has handled the evidence is a massive red flag and opens the case to abuse and corruption. It's not a loophole, it is the police and prosecutor not doing their jobs correctly. You generally don't see this in the West (though I'm sure it still happens quite a bit) because police and prosecutors are well trained and competent most of the time with these things and know that if they don't the case will get thrown out by the judge...and I'm sure the judge would have some choice words for the police/prosecutor who screwed up so massively. If I were a police chief heads would be rolling and I would be demanding some resignations. But no heads will roll or resignations will be submitted because, as you said, "let's remember where we are." :wink:
     
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    Rye83, Jul 1, 2019
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  3. Rye83

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    I missed where they stated there was a warrant. But a warrant is nothing even close to a conviction and should never be confused with evidence of guilt.

    Also, what are the evidence standards for issuing a warrant? What has to be proven? I think not much.

    Procedures exist for a reason. If they weren't following it then that is on the police. I would rather see 100 guilty drug dealers be set free than see 1 innocent person in prison for life.
     
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    Rye83, Jun 18, 2019
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  4. Happy Camper

    Happy Camper DI Senior Member Restricted Account Infamous Showcase Reviewer

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    The initial report I read said it was his 2nd arrest for drugs. Why is he still here? Should have been jailed and deported not to return after the first time. How many lives does he need to destroy?
     
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    Happy Camper, Jun 17, 2019
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  5. IggyPop

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    Such small amounts of drugs too, maybe an addict? He will probably get jail time... no mental health programs here.
     
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    IggyPop, Jun 16, 2019
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  6. SkipJack

    SkipJack DI Senior Member

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    WRONG !
    Drug offenses are not bailable because they carry a life sentence.

    non-bailable offense such as Drug cases, Murder, Rape, and other heinous crimes.

    True.

    The accused can also file a Petition for Bail on the ground that the evidence against him is not strong, even if the person/accused is facing a non-bailable offense such as Drug cases, Murder, Rape, and other heinous crimes.

    https://gtalawphil.com/new/how-to-post-bail/

    True

    The system here is something people should be concerned about and avoid crossing the police.

    Simply being accused of a drug related crime can put you in prison for years while you await trial.

    Here is an American who was held for five years because he was accused of rape.
    The court also questioned the credibility of the accuser, citing discrepancies in her statements.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-visa-could-land-this-american-in-jail-again/

    Some have gone on for 10 years.
    https://www.rappler.com/thought-lea...rial-detention-philippines-little-dark-secret
     
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    SkipJack, Jun 14, 2020
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    motormouth DI Junior Member

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    Finally, someone who understands how things work here. You are right on
     
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    motormouth, Jun 13, 2020
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  8. maybenotfred

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    sorry for taking this thread a bit off-topic as I was trying to give examples of two different cases involving expats to illustrate my point on when it's appropriate to express one's belief on guilt or innocence. I understand wrye's point and will continue the discussion on the latest arrest in Cebu on another thread if there's interest.

    last I heard Jim is still in jail and working on his case. Again, myself and other close friends of Jim are grateful for the even-handed comments on this site towards his situation and refreshingly fair attitude by this site's owner concerning Jim.
     
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    maybenotfred, Nov 13, 2019
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  9. Rye83

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    You personally saw him diddle little boys or just be in the company of them in public?

    Perhaps he is guilty but unless you saw the crime you say he is guilty of (pedophilia) then he, like your friend, also deserves his day in court and should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Please start a separate thread about the arrest of you want to continue to discuss it.
     
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    Rye83, Nov 13, 2019
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    Let me see if I have this right. Motormouth is now incarcerated because of no bail allowed? Yet, if he is incarcerated then he has to have one of the best jails I have ever heard of in the country. I don't believe they allow cellphones for prisoners let alone laptops or other computers. How is he accessing the internet and doing all of this posting if he is in jail? I'm missing something here.
     
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    Happy Camper, Jul 27, 2019
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