Another Malaysia Plane Down

CORRECTION: Much lighter sanctions.

 

That's the thing with the sanctions , it is all the innocent ones that become collateral damage on the way through , be alright if they could just make Putin ride a pushbike to work for 12 months , or cancel his hunting trips for a year etc. , probably have more effect.

 

What a disgrace , the phones of victims of the crash are being used and answered by people with eastern European accents , and now families are finding out that credit cards from the victims are being used as well , they need to be tracked down and punished , this is just terrible for the families to deal with on top of their already overwhelming grief , I am just disgusted and can only describe the perpetrators as robbers of every one else's oxygen . Link below , but beware it will make you angry.

Credit cards stolen from MH17 victims, used in Ukraine

 

Yeah, this is a place which is an economic basket case. It's poor compared to Russia, which is itself a poor country. They are in the middle of a civil war, which must make a hard life even harder. Not to mention these guys have a horribly low life expectancy due to drinking. This is not a nice place to live right now. Historically, this place has been a nightmare. The Philippines is poor, Ukraine has been brutalized through history.

 

Add to the above that there now emerge pictures in which people (I'm not sure I'm using the correct verbage here) are actually using grinders on the remains of the Boeing, for whatever reason. How much lower can you sink??
Vicmico

 

Hard to accept what "Wrye" wrote but it is the reality the people live in, look at the lives of the people in war zones and our "civiliced" ways of life don't work no more...

Just hope that you do not have to experience it ever yourself...

 

Having not lived in extreme poverty , or not lived in a war zone would admittedly make me ignorant to understand the dastardly behaviour of these debauchee's , when that plane went down in the Andes many years ago , I could understand what those guy's done to survive , because of the isolation and their predicament , but when I see well armed and clothed soldiers with communication and access to advanced weaponry I struggle with any justification on what they have done .

"Taking items from the enemy which are not of intelligence or strategic value is considered looting. For example, if you were to take a weapon from a wounded or dead enemy soldier, then that could easily be seen as just securing the enemy and would be permissible. If you were to search him and take papers, documents, or anything else of an apparent strategic value, then that would be allowed as well. However, if you search him and find things like money, personal letters from home, pictures of his/her family, religious items, etc, then you must leave those with the enemy. Those provide no apparent strategic value to you and therefore should be left alone.

Illegal under Art 132, LOAC, and Articles of the Geneva Convention:

The treatment of the battlefield dead can be divided into two aspects. First, there is a prohibition on deliberate mistreatment of the body, either through failure to treat it with appropriate respect or through mutilation. Second, there is a prohibition on pillaging the dead. These mandates concerning the dead are as much derived from the customary laws of war as from the Geneva Conventions.

The Geneva Conventions take the customary rules further. In Article 16 of the First Geneva Convention, we find an obligation for the party that has the body to send to the other party (usually through a neutral power or the ICRC) written evidence of death. Where the body is identified with the required double identity disk, one half of the disk, along with any personal effects found on the body, is to be sent to the other side."

We are all going to have our own opinion on right and wrong , acceptable behaviour , or even being able to understand certain behaviour , my opinion is that after shooting down and killing 300 innocent people , to then go and loot their posessions displays a total lack of empathy and morals , and even people that live in poverty need empathy and morals , otherwise , with out it ,we as a human race are f*cked.

Just my personal opinion.

Tony

Everything between " and that " is a cut and paste on what the Human race is meant to do,
even in war let alone when dealing with innocent non combatants that are victims