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  1. Rye83

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    Many airlines will require you to show one before you are even issued your boarding pass. I have been asked to show an outbound ticket (or resident visa) roughly 75% of the time. Buy an outbound ticket and save the hassle of quickly buying one on your phone at the airline counter. Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Taiwan, Bangkok are usually very cheap flights from Manila or Clark ($40-$100 USD). You are setting yourself up for a headache if you don't. And don't be one of those guys that yells at airline staff and causes a scene for your own lack of preparedness/ignorance, knowing and following the rules is 100% on you, they don't make the rules.
     
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    I'm sure you knew the rules and never caused a scene or gave an attitude to an immigration officer. I've lost count how many times I've seen a prick at the airline and immigration lines. These types should never take a risk with the rules as any little thing could be used against them when their petulant childish attitude inevitably comes out. Personally, I just like to make sure I have everything in line to avoid any surprises in case I run into an airline worker or immigration officer having a bad day.
     
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    You have to arrive together as she qualifies for the benefit of her spouse enting for one year Visa free, we do not qualify on our own. Leaving together or separate is irrelevant, only arrival makes a difference. Not sure it is written Clearly anywhere, but has never been an issue as far as I am aware (nor should it be).

    I am aware of people returning within a few days and receiving a Balikbayan Stamp again, shortest period for me has been a couple weeks (no issue or even a question from BI agent)

    Related question might be "If I am on Balikbayan and leave without my wife, can I come back on it if still within the one year period?" The answer is No, it expires as soon as you leave the country, even if you leave the next day.
     
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    Personally I would (and did) try without an onward ticket. If I got pushback about not having one (she didn't even mention it), I would try once to explain I was returning under Balikbayan and did not need one. If that one try was not successful I would allow the next person in line to go while I hit expedia.com, by the time they were checked in I would have an onward ticket.
     
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    #1 I let my wife do all the talking, turns out she was 'too shy' to ask or didn't know to ask, changes back and forth when we talk about it.

    #2 Her new passport was in the delayed batch so we didn't have it when we went to Hong Kong but we did have reservations in her married name and our marriage certificate. I handed the boarding passes, marriage certificate, and both passports to the BI official.

    #3 Did not have or need an onward ticket. If I did I would have got one on Expedia and canceled it in Manila so wasn't worried if I did. Didn't need it because either the ticket agent and BI obviously saw we had enough proof of marriage and qualified for Balikbayan OR the ticket agent was distracted by the ticket in her married name and old passport and the BI agent had too much fun giving me a tourist Visa instead of Balikbayan to ask.

    As always YMMV
     
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    My wife and I have never had a problem.
     
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    My experience last December falls right into what you are asking. There is no answer to your question of course, just stories of 'this is what happened to me'. We went to Hong Kong for a week, at HK airport I told the ticket agent I did not need an onward ticket due to Balikbayan status and gave her a copy of marriage certificate along with passports. No problem. At immigration my wife apparently 'forgot' to ask for Balikbayan stamp and he gave me the standard 30 day tourist. No mention of onward ticket from BI. I talked to the head guy at the Duma BI office and there seems to be a process to convert to Balikbayan but I did not do it as I had an upcoming solo trip to the States anyway.

    Back from the States on tourist Visa, got 59 day at the airport and just did a 6 month extension, another 2 month extension in December and we will try for Balikbayan again in Feb 2018
     
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    Last month I flew on Delta from the NY to Manila. I only had a one-way ticket, so the airline website would not allow me to check-in. At the ticket counter (arrived very early because I could see this coming), I explained that I have an Philippine SRRV and can stay in the country as long as I want and don't need a return ticket. The agent (very senior employee) was very pleasant and it required her to make a phone call. The service person on the other end went through the Delta procedures in their database, and they do let folks go if they can show their status as a Philippine resident by showing their ACR-I card. I explained that SRRV holders are specifically exempt from obtaining an ACR-I card (and it says that on the back of the SRRV.) But Delta had no information on the SRRV program. I had in hand copies of all my paperwork from the PRA and BOI when I was granted the SRRV, and.....DELTA LET ME FLY! Took 30 minutes of the agent on the phone, but they actually relented.

    My backup plan was to purchase on-the-spot with a credit card a fully refundable return seat three weeks later, then cancel once I got my feet on Philippine soil. I wrote to Delta to explain that they need to add SRRV information to their database. Who knows if they will?

    Entering the Philippines Immigration was a non-event. Passport and SRRV card...."Have a nice day, sir." Done.
     
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    I've know there is as I remember reading it, but do not feel like finding it and who knows if and when it ever got rescinded. Here is the law if you want to search through it
    R.A. 9174
    What I noted is that there is no requirement in the law to have an onward ticket if you arrive on the balikbayan program. So my question would not be to show me the law that says you do NOT need the onward ticket, I would want to see the law that amends R.A. 9174 and insists you DO need it. I know there are amendments because I saw a letter to say the rule about balikbayans staying out of the country for one year has been relaxed so you can leave with your wife and come right back and get a BB.

    And that's the problem. There are so many amendments and letters floating around that it would take a panel of Supreme Court judges to answer these kinds of questions. Seems to me an exit ticket is cheap insurance.
     
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    I once had the luck of being in line behind a guy in Thailand that was "demanding" to be boarded without an onward ticket. Absolutely lovely guy. I didn't mind him wasting my time, almost making everyone else late for the flight and making expats look like complete twats at all just because he didn't understand the rules/laws and wanted to act like a man-child. /sarcasm

    Note: He didn't get on that flight even with all his "demands". I don't blame the airlines for turning people away as it is them that get slapped with huge fines when they don't follow the rules of the country they are flying into. Since the Balikbayan visa is given at the discretion of the immigration officer there is no way for the airlines to know for sure if their customers will be given one (marriage certificate or not) or will be getting a tourist visa, which does require an onward ticket.

    Walking up to a ticket line without an onward ticket is not a good idea if you don't have the appropriate visa (and you don't have a Balikbayan visa until immigration gives you one upon your arrival....you are nothing more than a tourist in the eyes of the airlines). I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone that tries to bully their way on to a flight and gets smacked down by the ticketing personnel.....actually, I quite enjoy seeing it happen to the arrogant ones that go around demanding things they aren't entitled to. The ones that didn't know the rule I gladly tell them how to go about getting around the rule.

    Maybe there is a rule/law that says an airline doesn't need to see an onward ticket if you are married to a Filipino? I've just never seen it.

    I am curious though: What is it about the Philippines that attracts these arrogant trailer park mentality pricks? Maybe one can chime in here and reply to this to let us all know. I think it is just due to being low-class scum their whole lives and p*ss-poor parenting (or none at all). Perhaps it is more prevalent in one child households? Spoiled little brats that were never taught any manners or disciplined? The are (usually) tall and fat and think their size is intimidating? Their mommy didn't give them enough hugs as a kid? Too many hugs? I dunno......:troll:
     
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