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  1. Notmyrealname

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    It goes totally against my respect for all animals (maybe not ants!) but it is not my country so I just have to accept what the nationals of this country want.
     
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    Notmyrealname, Mar 27, 2019
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    IMHO ... cockfighting is a crude, cruel, barbaric blood sport and I wish they would crack down on it and eliminate it.
     
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    Sedona, Mar 26, 2019
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    Oh, you should just give up on that one. Don't try to make sense out of the behaviors/cultures of religious countries. They believe in books full of contradictions, why would they not have the same contradictions in their own life?

    Yes it is. Boxing, UFC, Pride, every martial art competition. We have been beating down each other for sport, profit and disagreements (legally, and widely encouraged) ever since we started walking upright. And to stretch that even further: It is so common (and legal) that we have massive "defense" corporations that make machines and bombs that allow one side to completely beat down and dominate the rest of the world with ease.

    It is not illegal. They have laws that specifically stating that it is legal and how it should be done. It is only illegal, like most gambling sports, when it is done outside of the government's control. You may disagree with and not like the "sport", but your displeasure doesn't make it illegal.

    I guarantee you that fighting cocks have one of the best lives a chicken could possibly have...up and until fight night. The dogs could only dream of getting that much food, attention and exercise from their owners.
     
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    Rye83, Mar 25, 2019
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    Same could be said of a few religions' past histories, but they're still here & thriving.
     
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    bootlegger, Mar 26, 2019
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    Not against cock-fighting, it's their culture so let them be. But if it's illegal then they need to be punished. For the police chief, so sad for his family RIP.
    Aside note. Some basic first-aid may have saved the police chief, using a belt for a 'tourniquet'
     
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    jimeve, Oct 29, 2020
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    The following quote has been attributed to Abraham Lincoln, who supposedly earned his nickname "Honest Abe" in part because he was considered a fair referee in cock fights.
    "As long as the Almighty permitted intelligent men, created in his image and likeness, to fight in public and kill each other while the world looks on approvingly, it's not for me to deprive the chickens of the same privilege."
     
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    redhorse, Mar 28, 2019
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    Plenty of men take pleasure in beating down others yet that isn't legal.

    Cock fighting is clearly against the law but its just one of yet another one of those Filipino laws that only applies when they care to make it apply. Cock fighting is to ingrained into Filipino's as a past-time / national sport due to the Spanish and as such no one dares upset people by saying its cruel and require it be stopped. But then in regard to the same law plenty of Filipino's treat their dog very poorly inflicting injury and beating it for just being a dog and you can report it all day and no one cares. Yet lets see if the law is still ignored if its a foreigner that is reported....
     
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    Not really the same thing. Cocks fighting is more along the lines of reproductive and establishing dominance instinctual behaviors, which we all know feel pretty awesome (though if you have regularly been the loser, or have never won, in the human versions of these competitions you likely won't see the satisfaction in it). It isn't an instinctual behavior that is activated through fear like in your example. Cocks are able to, and usually will, back away from a fight once they realize they aren't going to be the winner. And here is where cock fighting becomes unnatural; humans do not allow them to back out of the fight, along with strapping weapons to their legs to inflict more damage than would be naturally inflicted.

    How could cock fighting be made more natural/humane? Continue to breed them for higher levels of aggression if you want but get rid of the razor blades and let the fight end when one walks away. But I seriously doubt that will ever happen. That would be quite boring to watch. (Not that I enjoy watching the "sport" any.)
     
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    Rye83, Mar 25, 2019
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