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Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by SkipJack, Oct 20, 2020.

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  1. Philpots

    Philpots DI Senior Member Restricted Account

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    So what do you suggest? That anyone who tests positive has the right to travel anywhere he pleases and obviously he didnt just go to another medical facility did he. He spread it all over the place. He really did not understand just what he was doing and he should have after all the publicity and his level of education. Either that of he didn't give a d*mn!
     
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    Can you provide the timeline for the patient in SUMC?
     
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    Oh come noe, what a ridiculous response. Never mind, I believe most of the other readers get my point even if you refuse to recognise it.
     
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    I don't know.
    I think you mixed up two different people. The person in SUMC is not the attorney super spreader.

    "and obviously he didnt just go to another medical facility did he. He spread it all over the place. ..... and his level of education."

    We do not know that the person in SUMC spread it all over the place and we do not know their education.
     
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    Yes, thanks for clarifying. The SUMC patient came from San Carlos. People ask why he didn't go to a Bacolod hospital. Rye says it's his money, he should have his choice. Maybe so. In any case, we don't know who made the decision. It may be that all Bacolod hospitals were stressed at the time. That happens with covid.
     
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    Ummm. You do realize we are blocked off from Negros Occidental? No, you are misinterpreting and overreacting. Chill. My questions are similar to the Doctors at the hospital, but their questions were never answered in the press. No, I am not limiting where he can be treated at all. Are you doing this deliberately? Because it's such a strained interpretation. If the patient traveled down on his own, and was infectious, are there infections attributable to his travel? Did he stop in Guihulngan and contribute to the infections there? Did he get infected here, in Dumaguete? If he was infectious and traveled by bus there are potential infections up and down the highway where the bus let people off? Did he travel for treatment? San Carlos has a flare up. Can we expect more people crossing if he did? Remember the construction worker that walked past the roadblock through the fields to Mabinay and infected his family? We wouldn't have known about it if the neighbors hadn't told the barangay. That spread got stopped. So I'm curious, but there are no answers. These are all reasonable questions - and someone may have read something I didn't see. In any case, there are now 5 other municipalities on the other side of the island that have flare ups, San Carlos has 176 active cases. People moving from one side of the island to the other, bypassing police blocks and protocols are another source of spread.
     
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    Agree totally... I may have mixed up two cases and if i did then apologies but again the point is the way people disregard the risks and just movre around... unbelievable.
     
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    I'd like to see it too. I'll look again. :smile:
     
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    Didn't find this before:



    Monday, Nov 02, 2020
    In the News
    SUMCFI asks patients: Be forthright
    Sun, Oct 25, 2020

    How did a COVID-19 patient from San Carlos City slip past the Negros Oriental provincial border, and show up unannounced in a private hospital in Dumaguete?

    The Silliman University Medical Center Foundation Inc. is urging the families of patients seeking admission to be transparent with their medical condition, especially in dealing with the hospital’s healthcare workers.

    The hospital issued a statement Monday following reports that identified it as having admitted a COVID-positive patient from San Carlos City.

    The patient, a 53-year-old female, appeared at SUMC from the San Carlos City Doctors’ Hospital early morning on Oct. 17 on board a Guihulngan City ambulance.

    The hospital said the patient arrived without following the proper coordination protocols of the Dumaguete City Tourism Office and the City Health Office.

    The MetroPost has learned from a reliable source who asked for anonymity because she had no authority to speak on the matter, that the patient was a resident of Guihulngan but whose family had relocated to San Carlos last year.

    The patient’s clinical impression suggested that she had community acquired pneumonia, diabetes melitus type II, and hypertensive cardiovascular disease.

    However, she was refused admission in San Carlos City.

    The MetroPost source said a sister of the patient had asked help from their friends in Guihulngan to use instead the LGU ambulance, claiming that the San Carlos ambulance charges P20,000 to transport patients to Dumaguete.

    The sister, however, did not disclose the fact that her patient was “IgG reactive”, which could mean that she may have been infected with the virus that causes COVID-19.

    She also did not disclose that they have another sister in San Carlos City who has been diagnosed as COVID-positive.

    She reportedly told Guihulngan officials that they have a brother in Dumaguete who had made arrangements for their admission at SUMC, and that they already had a room reserved at the hospital.

    The source said the request to use the Guihulngan City ambulance was granted, mainly because the person making the request used to be a teacher in Guihulngan, and also out of pity for the teacher’s sister.

    The Guihulngan ambulance picked up the patient in San Carlos City.

    When the patient arrived in Dumaguete, the Guihulngan City Health Office called the Dumaguete City Health Office informing them that a COVID-suspect was now at SUMC.

    The patient, however, never got to her reserved room. Upon arrival at the SUMC, their COVID-19 Assessment and Review Board (CARB) evaluated the patient before admission, and determined that she was “COVID-19 likely” and was instead admitted in its isolation area.

    The patient was swabbed on Oct. 20, with the results coming out as COVID-positive on Oct. 23.

    The SUMCFI statement said the patient’s admission at the Hospital followed the health and safety protocols, and that their healthcare workers also followed appropriate infection control precautions, whilewearing Personal Protective Equipment (PPE).

    The statement said the appeal to be forthright in declaring the patient’s condition is for proper examination and assessment. “It is also very crucial in lessening the risk of infection spread within Hospital premises.”
     
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    You both are making a lot of assumptions and speculating about what this patient has done. If he had been named here it would be defamation. Stop the fear mongering.
     
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