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Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by NowandThen, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. Philpots

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    Hate to saythis but going to church may be kust like going to Ynot disco .... people spresd the desease and congrgations of people incresae the risk.
     
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    You are correct of course; just lighthearted needling.


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    I am very well aware of @Rye83 sense of humour (which I enjoy) and my posting was a joke - indicated by the smile and the fact that the emphasis on FAKE was because I am the one who faked it.

    Figures for deaths in China show (and these are not statistically sound as the numbers are still low and they reflect mostly those who, probably, had direct contact with infected wild animals in the Wuhan market):

    Rate of deaths: About 3% of infected persons.
    Age range: 48 to 85 (with 15 of the 17, about 88% age 60+).
    Gender: 13 men, 4 women.

    On the point of not attending discos but instead going to Church, if those who are regular church-goers strongly believe they are protected by God then perhaps they will be the major sector of the population who will not use masks!
     
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    Interesting stats, thanks for posting. I'm sure social media is lit up with this. I noted at the pharmacy today there was a sign saying "No masks." :smile: I told Hulagway that 60+ seemed to be the age range with most of the deaths, young folks should take care but not be overly concerned. Even though I'm in that age range I'm not too concerned.
     
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    I noticed on maps I researched yesterday on this subjct that although outbeaks have been discovered in other assan countries around the Philippines, absolutely none were shown for the Philippines. Wih the high rste of chinese travellng into the Philippines I fine this to be absolutely absurd. Are the Philippines properly reporting this or are they immune for some reason or keeping outbreaks under wraps?
     
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  7. Rye83

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    I don't see what all the fuss is about. The virus doesn't seem to be particularly deadly. Seems that only infants and the elderly have something to be worried about...but this is also true for the common flu. What am I missing here?
     
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    You should know by now, our locals penchant for chiz-miz, fake news & panic spreading nowadays. There's no news like bad news I think!
     
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    The coronavirus is not the same type of virus as causes influenza and so their is very little herd immunity - meaning that few people within the population will have enough immunity to break the chain of spread (as in cutting down trees in a forest to reduce or stop the spreading of the fire), as does happen with influenza, especially in a vaccinated population. So, in the initial stages, no one knows how fast it will spread. China, being an authoritarian State is, of course, able to take quick action to reduce the spread. Also, no-one knows initially, with a new disease, how easily it spreads from person-to-person (how contagious it is) or how it affects individuals (especially the serious illness and death rates).

    Then there is the possibility of mutation - changes in the outer coat of the virus which make it more dangerous and possibly more able to overcome any existing immunity within the population. This could take place due to the coronavirus recombining its RNA (like DNA but a little different) with another virus within a host - that could be a human it infected or another species. The new virus could be far more lethal. It may even behave like the influenza virus, which changes it outer coat by antigenic drift and so makes existing antibodies (a major basis of immunity) less effective.

    So, I think in view of the fact that we do not know the potential course of this virus, extreme caution is required. And even though we know the influenza virus extremely well, any change to the type could make it a major world killer. So whatever it is now - affecting mostly the young and elderly, not spreading like wildfire, killing a low percentage of infected persons - it may not stay that way

    Think of it like meeting a new type of wild animal - would you rush up to it or treat it with caution until you know it better.

    Those who take this viral outbreak seriously will be treated as weak fools if it turns out to be not that serious - but those who ignore it and end up allowing vast numbers of people to die (also wrecking the world economy) will be despised.
     
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  10. Rye83

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    The panic is not just from Filipinos. It is all over the news everywhere in the world. All major stock markets took a hit from the scare (which will result is huge gains when they recover).

    Mutations happen with the flu virus (and pretty much every other virus) every year as well and kills many more per year. I still don't see the need for all this panic.
     
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