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I see the reduction in cases in Guihulngnan on a positive note. I've noted here in Valencia the church services, singing, and karaoke I can hear. I noted with a cocked eye the crowd downtown after the construction workers were noted as contacts. Slow reactions in Duma and here.
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Poorly worded, eh? We've got 14 of 16 ICU beds occupied, Duma should've clamped down earlier. The message from success areas is be swift and decisive.
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The lesson learned is that the leadership has to wait for a series of events that they can then react to.

If the leadership acts in advance of the problem then the population accuses the leadership of exerting excessive control.
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There was a picture on Face Book. The event looked very well attended as in crowded.
Maybe if the crowd had observed social distancing there would not be this pre-emptive lockdown.

It is their own fault. Some credit is due to Covid Patient 191 (possibly).
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I think the first case in Valencia was from a different APOR returning from Cebu. As for the event, did the mayor not have a say in that being approved? You can't expect people to self govern, it is extremely rare that happens with positive results. You can't really blame the people for that, the local government should have known better than to allow such an event. Perhaps they thought the "thoughts and prayers" would save them during this religious event.

As for this "lockdown": I doubt it will matter much to the average person. Just do what you need to do between 6 am to 6 pm. Sucks for the vendors and BBQ stalls at the park but I suspect they will find a way to sell their goods for these next two weeks.
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#NewsBite: Here's the latest breakdown of active COVID-19 cases in Negros Oriental as of today, December 1, 2020.
Negros Oriental reported 27 new cases and 33 new recoveries Tuesday, bringing the total number of active cases to 111.
Dumaguete City still has the most number of active COVID-19 infections with 45, followed by Bayawan City with 15.
Valencia, which will be under lockdown from December 2 to 15, has nine active cases, the third biggest number in the province.
From 23 last week, Santa Catalina now only has eight active cases, followed by Tanjay City with six, and Guihulngan City and La Libertad with five each.
Zamboanguita town has four active cases, Amlan has three, while Sibulan, Bacong, Bais City, and Mabinay have two active cases each.
San Jose, Ayungon, and Basay towns have one active case each.
The total case count in Negros Oriental is now at 651, with 111 active cases, 522 recoveries, and 18 deaths. | via Raffy Cabristante, 106.3 Yes The Best News Editor
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Toto, Dec 1, 2020

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Anyone see the turnout and gathering for the Tree lighting that went on last week?
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There was a picture on Face Book. The event looked very well attended as in crowded.
Maybe if the crowd had observed social distancing there would not be this pre-emptive lockdown.

It is their own fault. Some credit is due to Covid Patient 191 (possibly).
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Show Pony, Dec 1, 2020

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BREAKING (updated 3:34 p.m.): Mayor Edgar Teves has issued an executive order placing the entire Valencia town under a two-week lockdown from December 2 to 15, 2020 due to the rising COVID-19 cases there.
Under the lockdown, the following policies will be implemented:
1. Non-Valencia residents will not be allowed entry into the town except for essential travel. In line with this, checkpoints will be reactivated around the town, and entering non-residents will be given a pass upon admission and are to return them to checkpoints upon exit.
2. The Sibaan and Paunay Market will be closed, as well as other resorts, tourist spots, ambulant vendors, and barangay assemblies.
3. Drinking of alcoholic beverages in public places is prohibited.
4. The Valencia Public Market and business establishments within the town will be open only from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m.
5. All offices of the Valencia municipal government will be working under a skeletal force system.
#NewsBite | via Raffy Cabristante, 106.3 Yes The Best News Editor
A copy of the executive order is also in the comments section.
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Toto, Dec 1, 2020

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Why am I not able to give the referenced post a trolling or abhorrent?

@mykajabi77 post did not contain any factual information of interest to the group. It is simply a indirect personal attack.
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Sounds like someone returning, who was previously shunned, under a new name.
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jim787, Nov 30, 2020

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LUPAD Dumaguete ''City of Gentle People''
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12 NEW COVID-19 CASES; MOSTLY FAMILY MEMBERS
City Health Officer Dr. Maria Sarah B. Talla reports 12 new COVID-19 cases today, many of them are members of the same families of previous confirmed cases.
Lately, it has been observed that the transmission of the virus is mostly among family members in households who share the same dining utensils, sleeping quarters and bathrooms.
In her report, Dr. Talla provided the profiles of the 12 new COVID-19 cases:
BARANGAY CALINDAGAN
1. The 20-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 568
2. The 28-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 568
3. The 58-year-old wife of NEGOR-COV 568
4. The 37-year-old health worker and son of NEGOR-COV 595 admitted at NOPH
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5. The 57-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 573
6. The 27-year-old grandson of NEGOR-COV 573
7. The 46-year-old daughter-in-law of NEGOR-COV 573
BARANGAY BAJUMPANDAN
8. The 49-year-old wife of NEGOR-COV 564
9. The 20-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 564
10. The 14-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 564
BARANGAY TABUC-TUBIG
11. The 20-year-old son of NEGOR-COV 562
BARANGAY MANGNAO
12.A 72-year-old male currently admitted at NOPH
All 12 new cases are currently in isolation and all their contacts have been quarantined. There are now 36 active cases being monitored as of Saturday evening.
Mayor Felipe Antonio Remollo appealed to the members of the public to be vigilant and always follow the minimum health standards of using face masks, avoid prolonged mass gatherings when social distancing is not possible and frequent hand washing.
Being a component city of the province of Negros Oriental and the center of trade, commerce and health industry, Dumaguete City cannot impose a lockdown or community quarantine unless approved by higher authorities.
Households with confirmed COVID cases are placed on lockdown and relief food packs are provided by the City Government and the barangays
For now, people from outside Dumaguete City are discouraged from coming to the city unless extremely necessary or related to seeking urgent medical care.
Lately, it has been observed that the transmission of the virus is mostly among family members in households who share the same dining utensils, sleeping quarters and bathrooms.
In her report, Dr. Talla provided the profiles of the 12 new COVID-19 cases:
BARANGAY CALINDAGAN
1. The 20-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 568
2. The 28-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 568
3. The 58-year-old wife of NEGOR-COV 568
4. The 37-year-old health worker and son of NEGOR-COV 595 admitted at NOPH
POBLACION 2
5. The 57-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 573
6. The 27-year-old grandson of NEGOR-COV 573
7. The 46-year-old daughter-in-law of NEGOR-COV 573
BARANGAY BAJUMPANDAN
8. The 49-year-old wife of NEGOR-COV 564
9. The 20-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 564
10. The 14-year-old daughter of NEGOR-COV 564
BARANGAY TABUC-TUBIG
11. The 20-year-old son of NEGOR-COV 562
BARANGAY MANGNAO
12.A 72-year-old male currently admitted at NOPH
All 12 new cases are currently in isolation and all their contacts have been quarantined. There are now 36 active cases being monitored as of Saturday evening.
Mayor Felipe Antonio Remollo appealed to the members of the public to be vigilant and always follow the minimum health standards of using face masks, avoid prolonged mass gatherings when social distancing is not possible and frequent hand washing.
Being a component city of the province of Negros Oriental and the center of trade, commerce and health industry, Dumaguete City cannot impose a lockdown or community quarantine unless approved by higher authorities.
Households with confirmed COVID cases are placed on lockdown and relief food packs are provided by the City Government and the barangays
For now, people from outside Dumaguete City are discouraged from coming to the city unless extremely necessary or related to seeking urgent medical care.
Mayor Felipe Antonio Remollo appealed to the members of the public to be vigilant and always follow the minimum health standards of using face masks, avoid prolonged mass gatherings when social distancing is not possible and frequent hand washing.
Being a component city of the province of Negros Oriental and the center of trade, commerce and health industry, Dumaguete City cannot impose a lockdown or community quarantine unless approved by higher authorities.
Households with confirmed COVID cases are placed on lockdown and relief food packs are provided by the City Government and the barangays
For now, people from outside Dumaguete City are discouraged from coming to the city unless extremely necessary or related to seeking urgent medical care.
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Toto, Nov 29, 2020

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According to an article published in Lockdown Sceptics, Dr. Michael Yeadon wrote, “There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I’ve never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren’t at risk from a disease. You also don’t set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn’t been extensively tested on human subjects.”

“ SAGE says everyone was susceptible and only 7% have been infected. I think this is literally unbelievable. They have ignored all precedent in the field of immunological memory against respiratory viruses. They have either not seen or disregarded excellent quality work from numerous, world-leading clinical immunologists which show that around 30% of the population had prior immunity.”

“They should also have excluded from ‘susceptible’ a large subset of the youngest children, who appear not to become infected, probably because their immature biology means their cells express less of the spike protein receptor, called ACE2. I have not assumed all young children don’t participate in transmission, but believe a two thirds value is very conservative. It’s not material anyway,” Yeadon wrote

“So SAGE is demonstrably wrong in one really crucial variable: they assumed no prior immunity, whereas the evidence clearly points to a value of around 30% (and nearly 40% if you include some young children, who technically are ‘resistant’ rather than ‘immune’),” wrote Yeadon

And considering the reality of herd immunity, when susceptibility to a virus falls this low, at around 28 to 35%, “that population can no longer support an expanding outbreak of disease,” and thus the virus “wanes and disappears.”

“The pandemic is effectively over and can easily be handled by a properly functioning NHS (National Health Service). Accordingly, the country should immediately be permitted to get back to normal life.” concludes Yeadon

https://www.nationalheraldindia.com...-is-over-says-former-vice-president-of-pfizer

Full interview here: https://lockdownsceptics.org/what-sage-got-wrong/
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Extract from a recent article NIH ...... “We have now proven that, in some people, pre-existing T cell memory against common cold coronaviruses can cross-recognize SARS-CoV-2, down to the exact molecular structures,” Weiskopf says. “This could help explain why some people show milder symptoms of disease while others get severely sick.”

“It still remains to be addressed whether this immune memory reactivity influences clinical outcomes and translates into some degrees of protection from more severe disease,” adds Sette. “Having a strong T cell response, or a better T cell response may give you the opportunity to mount a much quicker and stronger response.”

Notably, these findings contrast with those from antibodies, which haven’t shown significant cross-reactivity between common cold coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2. More research is needed to determine whether immune cell cross-reactivity contributes to the wide range of symptoms seen with COVID-19.

—by Tianna Hicklin, Ph.D...........

But I cannot find a recent reference particular to the 30% figure relating to this strain of Corona.

Interesting though!
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Philpots, Nov 29, 2020

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Toto, Nov 27, 2020

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The two reported deaths, seem to reinforce my thought on this. A person may die with the Virus, but not necessarily from the Virus.
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Believe what you will but I think that if they hadn't caught it they would still be with us.

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And even though the WHO just unrecommended Remdesevir.
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From the WHO home page.
WHO recommends against the use of remdesivir in COVID-19 patients
20 November 2020
WHO has issued a conditional recommendation against the use of remdesivir in hospitalized patients, regardless of disease severity, as there is currently no evidence that remdesivir improves survival and other outcomes in these patients.

This recommendation, released on 20 November, is part of a living guideline on clinical care for COVID-19. It was developed by an international guideline development group, which includes 28 clinical care experts, 4 patient-partners and one ethicist.

Updated 20 November 2020
* A conditional recommendation is issued when the evidence around the benefits and risks of an intervention are less certain. In this case, there is a conditional recommendation against the use of remdesivir. This means that there isn’t enough evidence to support its use.
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