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Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by Toto, Nov 24, 2020.

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    Provide some data showing the morality rate for each age group, please. Not anecdotal stories, "new studies" or "news" or "some new thing I just read", actual data from a legitimate primary source.

    And I have never said "only" old people die from it, though they do make up the majority of the deaths. I'm not sure if you are misrepresenting what I have said intentionally or not. What is your goal? To make everyone as scared as you are?
     
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    JUST IN: Dumaguete City now leads with the most number of active COVID-19 cases in Negros Oriental, based on the latest tally from the Provincial Health Office today, November 26, 2020.
    Provincial IATF ground commander Dr. Liland Estacion reported four new cases today: three from Dumaguete City and one from SIbulan town.
    Of the three from this city, two are a husband and wife from Barangay Batinguel, while the other one is an employee of the Provincial Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Office (PDRRMO) living in Barangay Camanjac.
    Dumaguete City now has 25 active cases, followed by Santa Catalina with 23, Bayawan City with 16, and Guihulngan City with 10.
    Bacong, Valencia, and Zamboanguita towns have six active cases each, La Libertad has four, while Sibulan, Tanjay City, and Mabinay town have three active COVID-19 cases each.
    Dauin, Jimalalud, and Canlaon City each have two active cases, while Amlan, Bais City, Ayungon, Basay, and Siaton have one active case each.
    The total COVID-19 case count in Negros Oriental is now at 602: 116 active cases, 469 recoveries, and 17 deaths.
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    Covid demographics for the United States:
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

    It looks like Covid accounts for 10% of total deaths when averaged across all ages. The older ages have a significantly higher infection rate and morbidity rate. It's around 10% for older people to <1% for younger people.

    Other countries can be found here:
    https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

    This link touches on comorbidity rates along with other topics.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
     
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    Believe what you will but I think that if they hadn't caught it they would still be with us.
    From the WHO home page.
    WHO recommends against the use of remdesivir in COVID-19 patients
    20 November 2020
    WHO has issued a conditional recommendation against the use of remdesivir in hospitalized patients, regardless of disease severity, as there is currently no evidence that remdesivir improves survival and other outcomes in these patients.

    This recommendation, released on 20 November, is part of a living guideline on clinical care for COVID-19. It was developed by an international guideline development group, which includes 28 clinical care experts, 4 patient-partners and one ethicist.

    Updated 20 November 2020
    * A conditional recommendation is issued when the evidence around the benefits and risks of an intervention are less certain. In this case, there is a conditional recommendation against the use of remdesivir. This means that there isn’t enough evidence to support its use.
     
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    What? They are going to vaccinate the communists first.
    Yes they are on a frontline, but I do not think that their insurgency is the frontline that doctors are worried about.
    NPA = New Peoples Army (Communist)
     
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    R: I've been lookin for info on "morality rates," but i can't find much <grin>.. As far as mortality, it's almost impossible to find anything accurate or even close to "..actual data from a legitimate primary source..", since almost nobody dies of covid, but of something other. The only thing even remotely telling is the "excess death rates," and even those are wishy-washy, rarely available, and very subject to local and national gummint twisting.

    I'm concerned, not scared, i don't do much different from what i used to do, going to restaurants, only more take out than before, out of the house just as much as last year for shopping and stuff, only difference there is using a mask. Sorry, wasn't trying to "misrepresent" or scare anyone, and i will concede that you probably didn't use "only" back in february when this blew up.... Even T-day was a restaurant with a group of six. If i get it, i get it, oh well (age 77)...
     
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    I got a lot of flack for being old and "scared" back then. At 93% recovery rate I thought my chances were good, but still wanted to assess the threat. Unquantified is how much being infected at my age of 69 starts the spiral down to being bedridden, a lesser life, and then death. Best not to find out by being cavalier about the disease.
     
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    Ah, maybe talking about different time periods. Interesting.

    The other aspect to this, I think is, how the island nature of the country will influence herd immunity. Being many islands has been helpful in sealing borders and containing spread, but this could actually hamper the goal of herd immunity, unlike land-mass countries where citizens can mix more freely. In theory, each island will largely need to achieve it's own herd immunity.

    I'm no expert, but just a hunch.
     
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    It has been provided a couple times and I have even used the source before. It shows that the older you are and the more health issues you have the higher your risk is from this. It is primarily a disease that older people need to be concerned with because the older you are the more likely it is you have health issues (this is the reality we live in, it cannot be denied). Yes, it gets some younger people but, as is also shown in the source, having pre-existing health issues is likely the cause of that. If you are under 45 and have no health issues the chance this virus killing you is extremely slim. Of course, if you are regularly around your elderly parents or grandparents you should take extra precautions to prevent spreading it to them. Since I am under 45, have no pre-existing health conditions and I'm never around the elderly I have little concern for this. I understand that not everyone is in my situation, my argument is, and always has been, that the burden of lock downs, isolation and quarantine should be on those in high risk categories, not the young, healthy and productive members of society. I wear a mask, stay away from others where possibly and I only go out to go to the gym, grocery shop and once or twice per week, to eat out. You will get nothing more from me.
     
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