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Bacong DENR IS INSPECTING THE BEACH AREAS HERE !!!

Discussion in 'Surrounding Areas' started by tuba-coma, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. charlyB

    charlyB DI Member

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    From what i have seen of the behaviour of the humans visiting the beaches the pigs are probably better for the enviroment as the pigs food/drink does not come in plastic bottles/bags that they leave all over and eventually ends up in the water to kill the fish.
     
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    tuba-coma DI Member Showcase Reviewer

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    I understand what makes you rolling on the floor laughing, but consider this: the fact, that a law is not implemented doesn't mean it is not existing. You cannot ignore that there is a statute book in the Philippines, and some smart executives change their mind and want to enforce the laws now, for the benefit of the people, for environmental protection and simply for justice. Look at Boracay, Panglao, El Nido etc and you see the change.
    Not knowing about law isn't an excuse for wrongdoing. If you rob a bank in your home country and you get caught by the police, telling them you didn't know that bank robbery is not legal; what do you think they will do with you?
    Society doesn't work if everyone is going his own way. It's a community thing...only that guarantees luck for everyone.
     
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    andiflip DI Forum Adept

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    Squatters should get nothing from the government ever. they are already breaking the law and the law should be the same for everyone, rich or poor.
     
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    MikeP64 DI Member Veteran Marines

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    I kind of cracked a grin when I read:
    . Are laws clearly defined any where in this world? Black and white clear? No ambiguity? No need for lawyers to argue? No need for judges to interpret?

    The legal pitfalls of buying property has been covered many times on this forum. Two of the things that stuck with us after reading those discussions is we would not buy on the beach and to hire a good lawyer.
     
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    tuba-coma DI Member Showcase Reviewer

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    where is the pitfall here?
    Under Article 51 of the Presidential Decree No. 1067, otherwise known as “The Water Code of the Philippines": Salvage Zone is defined as “the zone of three (3) meters in urban areas, twenty (20) meters in agricultural areas and forty (40) meters in forest areas, along their margins, subject to the easement of public use in the interest of recreation, navigation, flotage, fishing and salvage. No person shall be allowed to stay in this zone longer than what is necessary for recreation, navigation, floatage, fishing or salvage or to build structures of any Kind"
    and yes, you are right with the lawyer.
     
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    It says no "person". Are businesses people? Define "necessary". Maybe I think it would be necessary to fish in that area my entire life to feed and support my family. What if I felt it necessary to navigate in circles in one particular spot for the rest of my life?

    Who are you to tell me what is necessary in my life?
     
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    Dude, government does it all the time. :wink: It's for your own good. LOL

    This link is written a little more clearly.
    https://www.lawphil.net/statutes/presdecs/pd1976/pd_1067_1976.html
    Article 51. The banks of rivers and streams and the shores of the seas and lakes throughout their entire length and within a zone of three (3) meters in urban areas, twenty (20) meters in agricultural areas and forty (40) meters in forest areas, along their margins are subject to the easement of public use in the interest of recreation, navigation, floatage, fishing and salvage. No person shall be allowed to stay in this zone longer than what is necessary for recreation, navigation, floatage, fishing or salvage or to build structures of any kind.

    This is pretty straight forward. These lands belong to the state and are for public use unless the state decides otherwise. Hard for the public to use if there is a house in the middle of it.

    Some pretty overarching control of water. The government even owns the rain......

    Article 5. The following belong to the State:

    (a) Rivers and their natural beds;

    (b) Continuous or intermittent waters of springs and brooks running in their natural beds and the beds themselves;

    (c) Natural lakes and lagoons;

    (d) All other categories of surface waters such as water flowing over lands, water from rainfall whether natural, or artificial, and water from agriculture runoff, seepage and drainage;

    (e) Atmospheric water;

    (f) Subterranean or ground waters; and,

    (g) Seawater.

    Article 6. The following waters found on private lands belong to the State:

    (a) Continuous or intermittent waters rising on such lands;

    (b) Lakes and lagoons naturally occuring on such lands;

    (c) Rain water falling on such lands;

    (d) Subterranean or ground waters; and,

    (e) Water in swamps and marshes.

    The owner of the land where the water is found may use the same for domestic purposes without securing a permit, provided that such use shall be registered, when required by the Council. The Council, however, may regulate such when there is wastage, or in times of emergency.
     
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    here the DENR shows what they find necessary:
    Cimatu orders reg’l, local officials: ‘Clean Panglao’ of zone violations | The Freeman
     
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    Pitfall = We are not certain we can own it privately.
    Pitfall = We like our home private.
     
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    That doesn't say anything that would determine how long I could fish in one area. I'm not arguing that it doesn't belong to the public, I'm saying that I am part of the public and I'm using it only as long as necessary.....which just happens to be necessary for my entire life. That house I just built? Oh, that's temporary, it will only be there as long as necessary too. I need to keep my fishing gear there....and I have to sleep there to make sure it doesn't get stolen, can't afford a guard.
     
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