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  1. Rye83

    Rye83 with pastrami Admin Secured Account Highly Rated Poster SC Connoisseur Veteran Army

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    Reciprocity is a slippery slope. It could lead to everything being open to everyone or everything being closed to everyone but citizens. The issue is that different countries have different needs, goals and resources (real estate/tourism/business/development). Global economics and politics are just too complicated and nuanced for such a simple solution.
     
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  2. Cerne

    Cerne DI Forum Adept

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    At the risk of offending the traditionalists, marriage/divorce law is quite bonkers here. Outside of the Vatican it seems quite incongruous in the 21st Century. Guess I’m just a product of a culture in which we don’t see any value in either Church or State fiddling about with who I chose to commit to. Folk from my culture annually renew their vows privately or amongst friends, pay lip service to the ‘foreign law’ and just get on with it. Worked for me through 25 years and I get to deflower the bride every anniversary.

    In practical terms we did the state registry thing in the UK, had it solemnitised here, obtained dual nationality for her and the kids, but a less loyal subject to the Crown you could not find. I kinda feel sorry for people unable to make adult decisions without either State/Church interfering. Apologies for the judgemental post.

    Kernow bys Verreken!

    cheers,

    C.
     
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  3. Always a Poppy

    Always a Poppy DI Senior Member Restricted Account

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    I would have to disagree, but with purely selfish motive. British Citizenship has enabled my wife and son to travel to the UK and live there long enough to build a retirement fund, whilst also benefiting from the relative freedom (until now at least! Brexit is killing some of that) that a British passport offers.

    We could not then have moved to the Philippines without her re-attaining her citizenship here. Believe me going through those citizenship processes and the hurdles before that in the UK was a lot of stress, cost and at times heartache, but worth it in the long run.

    Ethically, you are probably right.
     
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  4. Show Pony

    Show Pony DI Forum Patron Highly Rated Poster Showcase Reviewer

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    There is probability IMO that the Philippines doesn't want foreigners to own land. People with big money eg China could buy up all the farm land and the country could end up being virtual slaves.
    In Vancouver Canada there have been hugh investments in residential properties by Chinese. That has driven the price of housing beyond the grasp of many locals.
    Speculation in the housing market has become so bad there is now a hefty tax on unoccupied homes
     
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  5. Dutchie

    Dutchie DI Senior Member Showcase Reviewer Veteran Army

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    Two thoughts:
    1. Why couldn't you take out a life insurance on a younger spouse with a reliable UK insurance company that charges regular premiums?
    2. If the foreigner is the policy holder as well as the benificiary in the policy, then there is no way the insurance benefits would be "part of the inheritance".
     
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    Google is no help here: Ferroans were pale-blue skinned humanoids with gold eyes. (from Starwars wiki :wink: )
     
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    In Denmark, foreigners can own land if they live on it permanently, fair solution in my eyes
     
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    Land ownership involving Filipino's in any other country's should be stopped unless the same privilege's are allowed to foreigners in this country..Same with bank accounts.
     
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  9. andiflip

    andiflip DI Senior Member

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    I know of a case where the foreigner divorced his Filipina wife outside of the country.. She rec'd the degree and would have had to attend the hearing in London.. or possibly hired a London lawyer, since she could afford neither after 6 months a decree absolute was issued and the marriage was over. The guy came back here with the divorce papers and went to the NSO or whatever they call it now, they didn't like to do it but respected the English Courts decision and removed the marriage from record.. He then proceeded to marry another Filipina.
     
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  10. Notmyrealname

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    I have heard conflicting opinions of a foreigner being able to use the 'long term lease' provision and am still not sure if the Courts would allow when it comes to inheritance.

    An opinion I found re inheritance is (https://lawyerphilippines.org/2019/...ance-laws-foreigners-filipinos-dual-citizens/):

    Compulsory heirs are determined by law.
    1. Legitimate children and descendants (grandchildren, great-grandchildren)
    2. If there are no legitimate children or descendants, legitimate parents and ascendants of legitimate children and descendants
    3. Surviving legal spouse
    4. Illegitimate children
    So the spouse ranks number 3, behind legitimate children and their descendants, behind parents, behind ascendants and descendants of legitimate children. Would a Court over-rule any of these compulsory heirs to give a foreign spouse a lift up the ladder because they had a lease? I have read before, but no source left in my memory bank, that Courts tend to dismiss any method which gives a foreigner claims over Filipino land.

    These are the issues that often have to be fought out in the Courts after a death and may take years. The case I cited earlier was one of those - an elderly foreigner, recently widowed and probably not in good health, taking on his late wife's family through the machinations of the Filipino legal system. He died two years later, perhaps due in part to the additional stress.
     
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