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You have made a lot of statements that I tend to agree with on the face of it. I do not believe that the small subset of arrogant foreigners here is any better or worse than the small subset of arrogant Filipino foreigners in the USA, many of whom never took their shoes off when entering our house, despite our big sign, much to the chagrin of my asawa [emoji52]. So she was a guest of the USA until she became US citizen. Hey, I know very well the Filipino guest culture in the USA. As with foreigners here, 99% of them are great to be with although most prefer their own culture and language over the USA. Sound familiar? As in, perhaps foreigners here too are the same way?
So, as promised more than 30 years ago, I am now the guest in the Philippines and she is the native. Between the two of us, out net contribution to both countries whether it be money or ideas is by far a net positive.

Now, the thing I don’t like reading is this stuff about colonial subjugation by other countries when the other country includes the US. There are two types of countries who colonized: Hostile, arrogant and Selfish...talking about Spain here, and generous, friendly counties who after 400 years of wasted Spanish rule, President Taft unwittingly received the Philippines and Cuba as spoils of the Spanish American war. When that happened, America who was once a colony itself felt uncomfortable and did not like the prospect of being a colonizer, early in the 20th century. We still don’t like it. We want Puerto Rico to go independent. Americans have hardly ever heard of Saipan, Guam and other “ possessions”. Yet, America could not just immediately grant independence to the Philippines at the time because it had no defense force, no legal infrastructure, no roads, no education system, nothing. The Spanish left them nothing. In truth, immediately after the USA took over we began building roads, we exported teachers to the Philippines and set up a school system that is still great to this day, we created a business structure and we set up a colonial government infrastructure that could easily be transferred to an independent Philippines, all this taking place over only 37 years, when America figured the Philippines could handle their own nation on the world stage circa 1935. We were a colonial power without raping any natural resources but instead encouraging the export of copra for munitions, sugar, cooking oils and so on from land owned by Filipinos, not land seized by Americans. Too bad WWII came along and a HOSTILE colonizer came in and raped the country of resources and literally the women , took married and unmarried women as servants and sex slaves & the damage persists to this day. They killed, subjugated and were racist towards their subjects. And yes, the Filipinos drove out the HOSTILE colonizer but only with USA help. So when I see inferences as to how the Stars and Stripes was an arrogant nasty colonial power who made life unbearable for the people here, I request that we be careful to put the US role in context. In spite of our bases being closed down by the Philippines legislature in 1992, where the best harbor in Asia (better than HongKong) went to waste, the America and the Filipinos continue to be good friends except that China is now filling the vacuum of our neglected relationship. Hope they can trust China. We have little experience in this as it is the first time China tried to expand it sovereignty and it will be at a Philippine expense, I fear. There is a very good book about this period called “In our Image”. No, we weren’t saints but we were probably the best country to take over at the time.


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Good post.

Yes, it is the job of the BI. But if other gov officials want to assist, seems like an OK idea to me.
Weed out the bad = cuts down on the chance of the rest of us getting a bad name by association (as in same nationality).
And maybe someday, the word will get out globally, 'jerks stay home or go somewhere else'.

 

Been around for decades

 

Quote <He noted that when Filipinos go abroad, they would try their best to behave and comply with laws of the foreign country.>
So, what about this:
130 Filipinos in death row overseas, nearly 4,000 in jail - Recto | ABS ...
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Sep 19, 2017 - The report bears some silver lining as it cited some 1,181 Filipinos who may be soon be out of jail and are awaiting deportation. DRUG OFFENSES TOP THE LIST. The report revealed that illegal drugs were the most common reason why Filipinos got in legal trouble abroad, with 2,265 recorded cases, ...

 

Nobody is forced to stay in a country what he doesnt like - anyway which colour your sunglasses have!
You can live here without the opinion of "perfect Utopia" - whatever that could be - with a realistic few of the circumstances in one of the poorest and less developement countries in the world and nevertheless like to live here, love the people and enjoy this kind of living, the good and the bad sides!
Most Expats know very well why they leave their own countries, but a lot of them doesn't know what it really means living in a country like this and after a while they are missing a lot of circumstances of there home before (Food, Realtionships, law&order...) and they start to critisize what they miss and what they left before - short version: They really dont know what they want and they act like children, and I dont mean the foolish clothings what they wear!

 

OK, that's Your Opinion and maybe your ecperiences here.
Neither in all that years that I traveled in the Philippines (2001-2010) nor since I live here (from 2011) I never had a bad, scary or unfriendly situation, with Pinoys (with some Foreigners I had some really stupid situations!) - and I am not going just the "secure" Regions or places).
Compared to other Countries and Nations I feel pretty safe here and be welcomened by the people!
But I am always very happy to read when people which not like it here, for their reasons, they just left and go in that "better places"!
I know some people, which I meet in Bars and Restos, they should, instead of moaning and complaining about the circumstances here, better go back in their own Countries!
The Philippines are very special and not everybody seems to enjoy that - I do!

 

I left Dumaguete/Sibulan area last May 5 (2017) after a 6 months stay. I was in the process of building a home on 1000 sq. m, had already built a 2 metre wall and the mandatory storage shed and then established the foundation for the house. However, I was accosted by two fully masked motorcyclists in the remote area along Pancil Lo-oc while my two PH helpers were away at lunch and had a revolver making an imprint on my nose with the perpetrators demanding 100,000 Pesos. I left Negros Oriental within a few hours and arrived back to the safety of Thailand. I found the Dumaguete area to be dirty, dangerous, extremely hot and humid [just look at the rubbish in the river running through Dumaguete just before Robinson's Mall]. The only plus for the area was the exchange rate. However, it was a valuable experience and started a project which the family will have to finish as the g'friend at the time said she would not sell. I am so happy to be back in Thailand which I find to be clean, safe and the women are far, far more beautiful than the typical Negros Oriental woman

 

Well getting back to the point:

As of 5:30 this afternoon this guy, who started it all, was still sitting on the boulevard looking like an undesirable alien, but at least I did not see a drink in his hand. Musta finished it already.

Point is the article is all talk. No one is gonna do anything about it.

 

Ah yes, so it's okay for Filipinos to walk/ride around in colors then, but not expats?