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Dumaguete City to discipline unruly foreigners.

Discussion in 'News and Weather' started by Ozguy17, Mar 10, 2018.

  1. djfinn6230

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    Well this is one of those movements that take on a life on their own and nothing can stop it. Now that several councilors are involved saying that they have the power to get foreigners deported, they have taken over a situation that has long bothered them for some reason. Now we notice that even parking violations show disrespect of the sort that should get you kicked out! I would be cautious of the growing anti-foreigner sentiment that seems to be taking over. Again, government officials are saying this stuff. Media compliantly agrees. And even foreigners here agree. Ever park your bike or car illegally? And btw it does matter how foreigners, the legal ones, behave in my own country. Because you know what, it isn’t the fact that people are foreign, whether we here are spending too much money raising prices or they are there taking advantage of our free services and taking our low paying jobs from our lower classes, people are the same everywhere. No matter who we are or where we are from, just look at people as individuals, not as foreigners but as people. We all have our idiots but on both sides we make our host countries much better and even make it possible for them to survive. Whether in the US, EU or ANZ or the Philippines, it is ignorant to single out foreigners for special disciplinary treatment.


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    Actually has anyone out there ever taken a good long look at these dogs that are wandering the streets? a huge percentage of them have multiple machette wounds on their backs or burns from boiling water being thrown on them. I for one do not appreciate a filipino lecturing me on treatment of animals.
     
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    Boiling water is commonly used to keep dogs away in market and other places. It speaks for itself, how painful it is, seen many dogs suffer during that treatment. Compare that with a kick in the air from a expat guy, little drunk in the morning, who gets the headlines ????????
     
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    And for dog meat stew, just don't kick the dog.
     
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    Some thoughts

    * I don't trust this site for news.

    * As we have seen in the past, "prepared" to "penalize" seems to result in little action.

    * It's strange that the city would make a special effort to penalize foreigners for things which currently don't seem to be enforced.

    * The city should start with _enforcement_ before deciding on penalties in special cases.

    * Bad behavior -> ??? -> deport!

    * Maybe the city could send someone to walk down the boulevard occaisionally to direct people with alcohol to move on? This was one incident I heard of, and it happened right after New Year's.

    * There are people with alcohol on the boulevard every night. There are a lot of places selling alchohol in the area and the boulevard gets a lot of traffic. It's no surprise that the dog kicker was on the boulevard. There's a list of simple management things the city could do before resorting to booting partying foreigners out of the country.

    * I suppose it does make some sense that in a city with a lack of action on enforcement, you might be considered for deportation if you attract attention. If someone has to put the cell phone down and drive off to deal with a ugly, strange talking drunk foreigner, then someone should get punished (or someone else should get paid off.) If your jungle dwelling activities require a civilized response, then prepare for trouble!

    * There is nothing to see here. The FB groups which posted the news of this "dog kicker" are the same groups which post gore photos traffic accidents. How is that for moral fiber? Now this questionable site has posted a waste of time article.
     
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    I don’t think they even care as much about dogs as we do. No, its the new attitude. There is a new Filipino pride here that becomes grated when foreigners are perceived to disrespect the culture. Even by improperly parking your vehicle. And they are taking action at the city government level. The people millennials and even gen x often reject the past and do not feel the bonds of friendship as their parents did to the USA, as Americans have always had for the UK for example.


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    Interesting post, djfinn6230.

    About the pride thing. Nothing wrong with a bit of pride, but too much can lead to anybody's downfall. That's human nature. One of the seven deadly sins as they say.

    Your comment about millennials and gen X; I find that to be hit or miss. Some of them genuinely like my presence here, some give off vibes that they don't.

    What I do not understand all this recent talk/news about "we're not your colony anymore", etc'. That was 100 years ago. Why isn't the MORE recent history MORE present in the current mindset? Or maybe for many, our post WWII friendship mindset is very much alive and well - but just not newsworthy??? Dunno.
     
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    For me it's more the mother whining " my child don't do things like this" while the kid is caught redhanded.
     
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    The particular dog that this particular foreigner in the photo kicked was a family pet on a leash wasn't it? Totally Not the same thing as the wild dogs running around all over the place that do get treated a bit.... rough...
     
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    Maybe they are tired of elderly men constantly hitting on them and are trying to keep them at arms length? When a lot of old men (and occasionally women) interpret any smile or act of kindness as "she/he must think I'm super gwapo and wants to have sex with me" and then shamelessly starts flirting with them with can you blame them for not being as friendly? It is uncomfortable for many people (those of us with the slightest bit of empathy for others' thoughts and feelings) to have to turn down someone they aren't interested in that is pursuing them. You don't want to hurt their feelings. Many will pick up a persona that is unwelcoming to avoid getting in those situations.
    Maybe I am projecting a bit. If you see me out and about I won't be looking like a person that is interested in talking to you. I'm happy on the inside but I would just rather not have to deal some idiot coming up thinking we are friends simply because we both aren't from the Philippines. Chances are I won't like you or be impressed by anything you have to say and I've already heard your story 1,000's of times and answered the "where are you from", "why are you here", "where do you live here" questions 1,000's of times.

    I have rarely had to deal with animosity from the younger generations. Actually quite the opposite. The younger generation is usually quite friendly and respectful towards me. The issues I have faced have almost always came from the 40 and older Filipino crowd.
     
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