I had someone explain to me just how safe it was just days before multiple bombings. Not of government offices or police stations but movie theatres? They are just looking to rack up the highest possible body count. I like movies. Sounds not too safe to me.
Did Duterte actually say bars to close at midnight or 2am? What I read is he said no drinking in public places after 2am (earlier reports I think may have mentioned midnight). But then a bar isn't a public place while it may serve the public its a private establishment. I would think that was meaning no drinking out in public after said time (such as the park or street vendors serving alcohol). The no smoking thing also makes perfect sense to me as well (which is already the law) as if someone is drinking its not shoving alcohol down your throat w/o your consent but with smoking its forcing all those around to breath in the smoke. Hence banning it in public places and even some or all establishments makes sense because for a business its hard to say no smoking to a rough customer puffing up when its the business policy but when its a law it makes an easier excuse for the business. Want to smoke there is always at home. As far as terrorism until it becomes a weekly happening in the end its small potatoes as far as risk. We can hear about all the terrorist bombings on the news and how 10, 50, 100, 200 people died or were injured. But if its only happening a couple of times a year the risk is still very low and the odds of dying in a car crash or even just crossing the street at a cross walk downtown while looking is likely higher. More people probably die to food allergies a year then due to terrorism in most of the country. For me I'm not looking to leave the Philippines because of Duterte or what may or may not be coming. For me if I do its just because of boredom and wanting to try something new. While plenty of complaints about the Philippines of course how many of us can really say when they look back in a few years they will see their time here as a bad thing? For me its been great and an eye opener, just maybe getting close to *maybe* moving on to the next thing.
So how many on here now, were drinking between 1 AM and 6 AM this morning? Raise your hand, high. If you are too hungover to raise your hand, , then send a post when you sober up. Please remember if you were unable to function today because of last night/early morning's activities, you are falling behind in your alcohol consumption today already. It is time to sober up and get drunk again before you miss out on another 5 hours stretch of non-public drinking time.
It's not about "survival" or even needs. It's about what I want....and I don't want to live in a nanny state like the UK or the US. You won't see me complaining much about how things currently are in Dumaguete because I do not go into town during daylight hours. I sleep during the day and only go to Dumaguete after 9-10pm and I'll come home around 5-6am. Sometimes the bars are the only place I can get something to eat at night. If I have to start going to Dumaguete during the day on a regular basis I will leave as it is a filthy and crowded sh*thole during the day. I do not want Dumaguete or the Philippines to be more like my home country and I'm here exactly because it is a polar opposite. I'm sure the people that came here solely because they couldn't afford to live in their home countries and are miserable because they are living in a 3rd world country will be thrilled that the government will be their nanny again....this guy isn't one of them though. If you are a person who has a family and your old lady tucks you in at 8pm I don't see why you have any concern about what others are doing at night. If you have some personal experience how a club being open at 5am has caused you any grief please explain. Other than maybe someone's wife sneaking off in the night to go party up a little bit with some younger Filipino gents I doubt the clubs being open have caused anyone any problem. It's just people wanting to push their personal beliefs onto others. There is a bit of exaggerating going on with what happens in the bars here. The vast majority of people in the bars clubs are not getting hammered drunk and the ones that I have seen getting extremely drunk and acting like fools are the expats. But for anyone that thinks that forcing the bars to be closed will stop drinking, well, you know what every local and bar owner has said to me when I asked them about the alcohol sales ban? "It's ok, we just have house parties!" So closing the bars early might result in the party being moved from downtown Dumaguete away from you and your family to a house right next door. And if house parties are where I'm forced to go to have a few drinks at night....well, I'll be bringing my portable sing-along karaoke with me everywhere I go and holding karaoke contests at every house party I can get myself invited to. Not last night, but most nights I am out at the clubs. But I don't drink to get drunk, I just drink while socializing. Duterte and the Dutertards who follow him (who are usually a bunch of hypocritical Christians) are just trying to impose their will on everyone else. Those that want to judge people who go out for a few drinks at night should probably have a close look at their life first and clean up their own problems first. IMO it's the same thing as what ISIS is doing, but instead of guns and cutting off heads, they are just using the government to impose their religious views on everyone else.
I guess my personal beliefs about murder has caused me to disagree. Phil Prins was out at night... 5 AM I believe, in a socially acceptable drinking club. . I do not pretend to know all the circumstance of what happened that night, but his life was significantly altered when the cook and bouncer of that club were CTV and accued of his murder. He was just out at one of the more popular social bars in town but very late at night. I suspect if Zanibar was not open until the last drinker left... he may still be alive today. I am not saying he was had no alcohol in him, but whatever the situation, most likely alcohol played a role and turned a social experience in to a murder scene. If he was guilty as everyone else, or completely innocent,I really can not judge, but the late night drinking contributed to the situation that happened. That is my personal belief. I am glad you have come up with a solution to allow you to continue you social drinking and not have to leave the country. I would be concerned if you could not come up with a solution, as even in the the US people do drink socially 24 hours a day, when the bars are closed certain hours. Even in states that are dry people do manage to drink at most hours of their choosing. If you can not figure you way around the law, maybe... just maybe you have had enough alcohol for the moment. I think reducing murder is much more than just a religious view point that is being pushed on everyone.. Phil Prins, was murder outside Zanibar at 5 AM. He life was effected significantly. The accused cook and the bouncer (who never has been caught, but may be sitting next to you some night while you are out socially drinking) probably had consumed some alchol, as they came up with plan and executed the plan well enough to inflict great damage to Phil Prins. Maybe they were just socially drinking, but a little less inhibited than others in the bar due to their level of alcohol consumption. I think that type of behavior they displayed which causes someone to murder some one else was probably enabled by drinking from the previous day. Religions has little to do about stopping this type of behavior, alcohol consumption could have a much greater impact on stopping alcohol enabled courage resulting in murder. (Remember this was not a one on one situation, but a three or more one one situation). Actually I think most people are against murder, more so than drinking alcohol. I do believe that Presidential head of the government believes that the Citizens of the Philippines should be alert and productive during the day, producing more so the "pie" is bigger and everyone gets a bigger piece.. maybe he does not want the country to stay a third world county. If leaving the country is your only solution to stop being inhibited from socially drinking 24 hours a day, well...............
And acting aggressive and wanting to fight......which he found. Correct, but if you go out drunk as a skunk looking for trouble then you are going to find trouble. About time I published the CCTV footage of that. My friend that was managing the place has gotten out of country so I could care less what people see or say about the bar or the owner. Watch carefully and you'll see he assaults the bouncer by slapping him in the face....and then continues to follow him around the bar looking for a fight. Here ya go: It's called personal responsibility. I see no difference between this incident and the countless foreigners who have been out drinking and died while driving home on a motorcycle without a helmet. If you want to act like a stupid fool then you should expect nothing but stupidity to be the end result. Did he deserve to die? Absolutely not, but should everyone be punished because of his stupidity? I think not. Stupid people have stupid things happen to them. Nobody put a gun to his head and said drink, that was a personal choice. No, it was a homicide. He wanted to fight and he lost that fight. I have absolutely zero sympathy for guys that go out looking for trouble and then find it.
FYI: nothing happens in that video until around 6:50. If you want to see what NOT to do in the Philippines, Mr. Prins gives a great demonstration.
So do you know why Phil Prin was looking for trouble in your opinion as he walked out to the bar that night,seemly to go home? He had many positive testimonies about what a nice guy he was when he was first killed, particularly from the staff and students of Foundation College. When walking out to the bar, was he anticipating a group attack was going to follow him with hidden, previously placed alcohol bottles used? Seemed like he was walking away from trouble; not towards it. Did alcohol have anything to do with the actions of those involved (including Phil Prin) , or was everyone "dry" that night? A lot of alcohol can be consume by 5 AM when you started the previous evening, certainly enough to develop the courage to attach someone with the help of your friends and an empty available bottle. I will agree it is not a good idea to slap a bouncer or anyone in a room full of people taking emotionally modifying chemicals. Nor is it a good idea to get so drunk/drugged that you jeopardize you own life or others. I think it was earlier last year a young foreigner left Zanibar and drove right into a truck late a night killing himself. At least he did not jeopardize any one else's life, in in that incident, but all lives do matter .
My biggest issue with the bars staying open super late is that people who get up super early have to deal with drunk people. Taking a stroll downtown at 5 AM is like dealing with the walking dead. Drunk stumbling people walking down the road. If there is a group of them they may give you trouble. And that's not as bad as the people who are driving. I have to watch my @ss walking past a karaoke bar which has been open all night. I have almost got hit by drunk drivers coming out of the parking area a couple of times. I could give a rats @ss though. People will adjust. Or leave. Or **** off. Maybe the people leaving will help offset the people coming in. I doubt it. You think this sucks? Wait until they start messing with the tourist visa's. Given we are on an island and have to fly everywhere, that's a guaranteed exit for a lot of people.
