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Filipino naturalization issue

Discussion in 'Expat Section' started by Union Jack, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. Union Jack

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    I was reading that to obtain a filipino citizenship by naturalization, among other requirements, one has to surrender any other nationality.....does it mean one can only have the Filipino citinzenship and no others? As from 13 april 2007 all filipino citizen are allowed to have a dual nationality as long as they have a Certificate of Oath after taking an oath of allegiance....does this not apply to other nationals applying for filipino citizenship?
     
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    Hi Jack,

    I don't know the immigration laws in the U.K. But it is my understanding, for adult Americans wanting citizenship in any other country, the U.S. law says they must give up their U.S. citizenship. Children born in a foreign country like my daughter, can have dual citizenship. If I'm mistaken, anyone please let me know.
    Ron
     
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    Hi Jack,

    I don't know the immigration laws in the U.K. But it is my understanding, for adult Americans wanting citizenship in any other country, the U.S. law says they must give up their U.S. citizenship. Children born in a foreign country like my daughter, can have dual citizenship. If I'm mistaken, anyone please let me know.
    Ron
    Sorry for the double post something screwed up. Rhoody please delete.
     
  4. garbonzo

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    Ron, that was the case but that law was changed about ten years ago....Americans can hold dual-citizenship, and taking up citizenship in one country - Australia for example (know several who've done it) - doesn't normally revoke their American citizenship. They can revoke it voluntarily if they like - but most don't. I find it odd that the Philippines requires surrendering your nationality if assuming Filipino citizenship - a process so difficult, and lacking of tangible incentives that I'm surprised anyone does it. The government is being a bit precious...
     
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    garbonzo,

    Thanks for the information, I didn't know the U.S. laws had changed. I know in the past kids born here were forced to decide which citizenship they wanted and were only allowed one when they reached 18, Lucky that changed to lifetime duel around the time my daughter was born.
    My intent wasn't to get off topic, I thought this might have something to do with Jack's question.
    Ron
     
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    Union Jack

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    Thanks for your kind replies.
    So it is the case, if as a British citizen wants to hold the Filipino citizenship, he or she has to surrender the British first as a condition. I do not understand though why a Filipino born citizen can have dual citizenship while a westener naturalized Filipino cannot. The UK government allows dual citizenship and so the Filipino, with the ecception of naturalized citizens apparently....or maybe he or she can apply for dual citizenship later on after obtaining the Filipino one.
    As often with filipino law, questions are double the amount of answers.
     
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    As others have stated this is no longer true regarding the US. In fact, the only way an American can now give up citizenship is to make an interview appointment with a US consul and pay $500.

    Go here;

    Embassy of the United States Manila, Philippines - Loss of Nationality

    Special emphasis on this;

    "The Department has a uniform administrative standard of evidence based on the premise that U.S. citizens intend to retain United States citizenship when they obtain naturalization in a foreign state, subscribe to a declaration of allegiance to a foreign state, serve in the armed forces of a foreign state not engaged in hostilities with the United States, or accept non-policy level employment with a foreign government."



    Sometime last year there was a bulletin put out that enacted the $500 fee for voluntarily relinquishing citizenship. They did this because in the last few years the number of people relinquishing citizenship for tax reasons quadrupled.

    Larry
     
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    Dual citizenship was not allowed in Belgium in the past.
    But than hundreds of thousands of Maroccans came to Belgium and for them it is not possible to loose their citizenship.
    So now it is possible for a Belgian to have dual citizenship.
    Conclusion if foreigners are allowed to have dual citizenship(including yours) it has to be possible for you to have dual citizenship as well.
     
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    You will not be required to surrender your British passport. The only time "renouncing" your citizenship comes up is in taking the oath of allegiance to the Philippines. I don't know anything about British law, but this is not adequate for the US to consider you having given up your US citizenship. In order to do that, an American must PAY MONEY!

    Larry
     
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    Thanks Larry for your informative reply. :wink:
     
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