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Foreigners Allowed Senior Citizen's I.D.

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  1. Happy Camper

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    The income restrictions were removed years ago so that all Filipinos could take advantage of the program. Sad state when those can afford to pay full price still insist on the discounts that many poor need.

    You are correct, it was never intended for foreigners, but I knew some, that were well off and still had the cards and used them. They got them from "friends" in the Mayor's office even though they were not authorized to issue them.

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    When your classed as a senior by age and anywhere in the world you get those senior perks.
    I know as a world Traveller I always show my identification and always get senior privileges which I have earned the same as everything in society that is age driven.

    Think about it.
     
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    No you don't.

    You have earned something just by getting old? Good job continuing to breath for 55+ years, I guess.

    And old farts are always complaining about the younger generation's sense of entitlement. :troll:
     
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    How many years are we going to keep beating a dead horse? Some foreigners do indeed have and use the Philippines Senior Citizen Card, I wonder what the penalty would be if busted for taking advantage using the card. The claim,”your honor I was given this card by a government employee”. Judge: “well it wasn’t me so pay up and pack your bags”..
     
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    Absolutely! Consider the costs of Phil Health for foreigners that give far fewer benefits to foreigners than to citizens, specifically no Z benefits, but the cost is about 6-8 times the cost that citizens pay, 17k vs 2.5k. Phil Health must be depending an foreigners assuming they have reasonable coverage before they get suckered into buying it. I recommend a “do not buy” for this product unless you are interested in voluntarily subsidizing the poor and the sick; nothing wrong with that until you get sick, of course, and you find that nothing pays except your self-insurance savings. The thread is about the senior discount and again, it is all about taking, not giving. Everybody paying full price are subsidizing those who get the discount. Of course, if one cannot afford it here, yes, go home and use your home country social services which in most cases, definitely does “give” to foreigners often for free. Nothing wrong with that either but i believe in reciprocity. Each country should treat it’s foreigners in exactly the same way that the foreign countries they come from treat their guests if the same nationality.


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    Do you realize how insanely complicated that would make every single law on the books? I couldn't imagine how big the government would need to swell to handle such a thing.

    And what if some 3rd world country that no American would ever visit made a law that said "all Americans are welcome, we will give them citizenship as soon as they get off the plane and as well as free food, water, healthcare, a home, etc...anything you want"? What then? Do you walk back on your reciprocity rule? Me thinks you would.
     
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    Do you realize how insanely complicated that would make every single law on the books? I couldn't imagine how big the government would need to swell to handle such a thing.

    And what if some 3rd world country that no American would ever visit made a law that said "all Americans are welcome, we will give them citizenship as soon as they get off the plane....also free food, water, healthcare, a home, etc...anything you want"? What then? Do you walk back on your reciprocity rule? Me thinks you would.
     
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    I was thinking about it being a bit more limited and reasonable. For example, the US currently uses a reciprocation principle to the cost of visitors visas. China charges US citizens around $200 for such visas so we charge Chinese the same price. However, the default charge is $0.00 and we charge nothing to citizens of countries who charge nothing; I think that is a great policy. I believe British commonwealth countries reciprocate health care amongst it’s member nationalities; I would support the US joining in on such a scheme although the US essentially provides free healthcare to all indigents by law by requiring free emergency rooms for them and many end up using the emergency room for routine health care. We would just look at current rules applying to treatment if foreign US visitors and where imbalances exist, to make simple readjustments as we do the visa rule.


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    Not correct. I am from Australia and whilst there is some sort of medical benefit reciprocity agreement with New Zealand (both ex British Commonwealth colonies) there is none with say England nor Canada or India. I believe the Australian/New Zealand agreement has more to do with geography than anything else. From Sydney, Canberra or Melbourne to Auckland (in NZ) it takes less than half the flying time than say the flight Sydney to Perth (in Aus). Unless Australia /New Zealand are competing in sport, they emotionally consider themselves part of each other's country with historic and genuine connection being part of each other's fabric.
     
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    you may speak for yourself happy camper but do not presume to speak for me. you have no idea what price i can afford, or not afford
     
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