Girl-Type Questions

Sorry, but you would have to be bat-sh*t crazy to renounce a Canadian citizenship to get a Philippines citizenship.

The much wider ability to travel without having to get a visa in advance alone is worth a lot. Filipino's can travel to a handful of places in Asia and that's about it.

There's no social safety net here.

As a government document, a Philippines passport gets you very little.

 

for Jessica ( or Anyone really)

Now, Don't all laugh at this because it is true.

Until any of us are married and have that somewhat elusive 13a permanent, we are all Tourists on a 9a (expecting those on other visas)

Now Jessica, having found out a little from my neighbour (A Lawyer) just 1/2 an hour ago. Having a baby here out of Wedlock (this is for you as a female) can have big problems attached. Being a Tourist only, and not married to the father of the baby, means you may not get a Filipino Birth Certificate. if you did, then you may lose, all rights to your child, as they will be given to the Father. the Mothers name, may not even, be entered on the BC. Now, given this, you have to bear in mind, that your child is without a Passport, No BC! Not even a Canadian Passport could be issued. So Guess what? Your unfortunate Child, will be stateless, and an overstayer from birth. Oh! I know that this sounds beyond belief but there is a case on just now, where a Mindanao man of 70 is judged an overstayer of 70 years, albeit he was born in the PI to a National Mother and a Japanese Father. OK he did not help himself, by obtaining a Japaneses Passport, this has highlighted the need to be very careful on child Birth. The PI has it's rules, best we know them, before damage is done.

I have not followed this through, in a whim to be negative but it really does need to be looked at, in a very different way than we would normally do.

Jessica, 10 marks and 5 likes, for raising this Question as it seems there is a big difference on Gender issues That I wonder, if any PI Government Agencies, have ever thought about and no doubt, BOI will try and bend in their Favour.


MORAL Get married if you intend to have Children.



JP

 

That was my point The Dude, but you have a flair for eloquence that I sorely lack.

 

Another reason I would like to renounce my Canadian citizenship is because of the Government situation in that country currently. I can't say I like what the Philippine politicians do either, but Canada has certainly let me down time and time again. I suppose giving up my citizenship in my own personal little 'F-you' to them...and it's really not like I'm a travel bug....the Philippines was the very first place I ever traveled to outside of Canada, and while living in Canada I felt extremely restless and strayed everywhere I could, here in the Phils I feel very comfortable and I want to throw down some roots pretty soon.


Jack: Thank you for that info....that's EXACTLY what I was worried about....I really appreciate you talking to your neighbor about it!!
I really don't think anyone in the Govt agencies have mused on it, since like I said before, foreign women don't often come here expecting to find a partner, let alone settle here....especially someone younger.

 

Not meaning to belabor the point, but the keyword in The Dude's reply for me was Safety Net. You can p*ss all over the Candian flag if you wish but remember, they will have your back if things "Go South". You cannot expect the same of your Host Country. You may be in what you think is an idyllic place and it does look very nice. But things i.e. relationships can and do turn sour. I was having lunch with aking Asawa in Cavite one day and what I assume was a North American came to the table and asked if we had any spare food? I was shocked, this was not a young street kid I am used to that. He proceeded to tell us his Pinay wife had died during child birth and he was left alone to care for the child. Bottom line whether it was bullshit or not, this was a guy who had nothing to fall back on. Not knowing the reason, his plight still haunts me. Stating your not much of a traveler may be true. But bottom line, you need to have the ability to travel back to your Country of origin. I've seen the places you don't want to end up.

 

you might be correct...that's how I came to be in Zambo...relationship went sour, then I was on my own. I tried contacting the canadian embassy to get me back home and they did absolutely nothing for me....lots of foot-dragging and run-arounds, as usual...wouldn't expect anything less from a Govt that ok's thousand dollar lunches for local politicians but don't do 'SH' all for their tax-paying citizens.... I gave up on them and decided to stay in the Philippines, suck it up, and go find a way for myself. Thank god I'm as tough a cookie as I thought I was lol.....because I also know the places I could have ended up in if I wasn't so smart or lucky....I'm 100% grateful that the good people outweigh the bad here.

But I getcherr point. Holding onto a Canadian passport could be useful someday down the line.

 

Being able to have property and business ownership is one distinct advantage.

Larry

 

I would hazard to guess that has enabled more Asians(Chinese, Korean) than ever it has Non-Asians. Albeit I can only rely on my limited eyesight and time spent in the PI

 

Jack, your lawyer friend may want to read up on current law regarding philippines jus soli acquisition of citizenship;


"REPUBLIC ACT NO. 9139 June 08, 2001

AN ACT PROVIDING FOR THE ACQUISITION OF PHILIPPINE CITIZENSHIP FOR CERTAIN ALIENS BY ADMINISTRATIVE NATURALIZATION AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES
Be it enacted by the Senate and the House of Representatives of the Philippines in Congress assembled:
Section 1. Short Title. - This Act shall be known as "The Administrative Naturalization Law of 2000."
Section 2. Declaration of Policy. - The State shall control and regulate the admission and integration of aliens into its territory and body politic including the grant of citizenship to aliens. Towards this end, aliens born and residing in the Philippines may be granted Philippine citizenship by administrative proceedings subject to certain requirements dictated by national security and interest.
Section 3. Qualifications. - Subject to the provisions of the succeeding section, any person desiring to avail of the benefits of this Act must meet the following qualifications:
(a) The applicant must be born in the Philippines and residing therein since birth;
(b) The applicant must not be less than eighteen (18) years of age, at the time of filing of his/her petition;
(c) The applicant must be of good moral character and believes in the underlying principles of the Constitution, and must have conducted himself/herself in a proper and irreproachable manner during his/her entire period of residence in the Philippines in his relation with the duly constituted government as well as with the community in which he/she is living;
(d) The applicant must have received his/her primary and secondary education in any public school or private educational institution dully recognized by the Department of Education, Culture and Sports, where Philippine history, government and civics are taught and prescribed as part of the school curriculum and where enrollment is not limited to any race or nationality: Provided, That should he/she have minor children of school age, he/she must have enrolled them in similar schools;
(e) The applicant must have a known trade, business, profession or lawful occupation, from which he/she derives income sufficient for his/her support and if he/she is married and/or has dependents, also that of his/her family: Provided, however, That this shall not apply to applicants who are college degree holders but are unable to practice their profession because they are disqualified to do so by reason of their citizenship;
(f) The applicant must be able to read, write and speak Filipino or any of the dialects of the Philippines; and
(g) The applicant must have mingled with the Filipinos and evinced a sincere desire to learn and embrace the customs, traditions and ideals of the Filipino people."

R.A. 9139

Although the case he stated could have happened prior to 2001, there is recent changes to allow citizenship on grounds of jus soli.

Larry

 

I have only ever known one non asian who gained Philippine citizenship, and he owned nothing.

Larry