As someone who has a background in health care in the UK, Australia and worked in areas around Asia where we had to use local hospitals I have this to offer.
Healthcare in any country has great variables good doctors bad doctors good hospitals lousy hospitals.
Expats seem to have no plans what to do in the event of an medical emergency, some come here with insufficient funds to manage serious medical illness. Medical insurance or having an emergency fund seems to get ignored.
The gold standard these days for a heart attack is fast movement from emergency room to the angiography suite for insertion of stents to open the coronary arteries.
Angiography is only available in Cebu or Manila and I dont know whether they follow worlds best practice in swift transfer to the angiography suite for treatment by an interventional cardiologist.
However......clot busting drugs for treatment of a heart attack have been for 15-20 years and if given in a timely manner can clear blood flow to coronary arteries in under an hour. Country paramedics in Victoria Australia give it on route to a hospital.
So why Silliman hospital cant treat a heart attack.......I dont know its not difficult the drugs might be a bit expensive.
Anybody in Siquijor .........good luck I have had an opportunity to see whats in their hospital and an expat I heard of who had a serious injury they refused to treat but did give the name of a boatman who could ferry him to Dumaguete. Subsequently following his CT scan he was transferred to Cebu as Silliman has no neurological facilities.
So I would urge people to have a plan that they discuss with friends and family have some money stashed away and have some idea of who they can contact for emergency transport. Rhoyle airlines at Dumaguete will fly you to Cebu or Manila for a price. Establish which hospitals you would like to go to.......all in Manila and Cebu is not good I went to the Holy Child in Cebu had a quick look at the Resuscitation area -no space and no equipment and thought ...........good luck to anybody hoping to be resuscitated there.
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Western doctors are certainly impressed with the perks offered by the Pharmaceutical Companies.... Oh wait, I ment effectiveness, yup that's it, effectiveness of Big Pharma...-
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Brian I'll tell you about my experience here. My adventure started in Bahrain. I went to the specialist hospital in Bahrain because I could hardly walk due to severe back pain. They were no help whatsoever. I did walk away with a prescription for Celebrex (bad stuff that was). The Orthopod here told me to ditch the Celebrex as it banned in Europe and N. America.
My wife (GF at the time) dragged me to see the local Orthpod. He poked, he prodded, he twisted stuff, the only thing he didn't do was make me cry.
Day 1 he gave me some drug or other and said come back tomorrow, day 2 same-same, day 3 same-same. On Day 4 I asked him "do you have a plan?". He said YES I DO !!!, if the problem was "A" drug #1 would have fixed your back, If the problem was "B" drug #2 would....etc. He explained his approach was the cheapest method to diagnose the problem. In the west doctors/nurses would have crapped all over him. I actually thought his approach made a lot of sense. He couldn't fix my problem with a drug so he sent me off to Cebu for an MRI. The cost was something like $250 USD.
We got back to Dumaguete with the MRI pictures. Doc looked them over and said; "well you have a disk that's flattened and a couple are herniated so the bones are pressing on the nerves. I looked at him and said "WOW THAT'S GREAT! Can you remove the disks and fuse a few vertebrate?" I was serious, I mean he could make the pain go away. He looked over his glasses at me and said yeah I can do the surgery`BUT ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR F,,N MIND``. He said he had 6-8 things he would rather try before surgery.
To make a long story short he sent me off for physiotherapy to strengthen my stomach muscles which keeps the spine from pinching the nerves.
So I do believe some of the doctors here are pretty good.
This post is a little long already. Some other time I`ll tell you about my step daughter spending time with an older man...the Neuro Surgeon.-
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So he lived for about 10 days in ICU where he slowly deteriorated and the doctor said, (in English and while I was there listening), to his live in partner that "he is just old and there is nothing more we can do for him." Tom had just had his 70th birthday and was otherwise in good health. Does that seem old to you? In a first world country there are many survivors of heart attacks at age 70, especially when they occur in the hospital.
Thus it is my opinion that if quality of hospital is a primary consideration in your choice of where to live you can only consider Manila, Cebu and possibly Davao (have not checked that one out).-
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And no; I could not sue the Hospital because I signed forms letting them off of the hook should something go wrong in their care/operations... However, the Hospital tried suing me to recover costs of operations, bed stay etc forcing me into a failed expensive (on my part) attempt to sue another party, the only ones to get rich were the Lawyers involved, only once they walked away after receiving Government funding for 8 years did the Hospital drop its case against me...
My Wife worries about me here in the Philippines thinking I will get far better care if we lived in the City closer to the Hospital, but I accept what may come as I have no faith here or back home in Oz that I will receive life saving care from any of the Medical systems on offer, and IF it happens (life saving care) then it is a bonus, come what may...
The World Today - Medical mistakes: a silent epidemic in Australian hospitals 10/06/2013-
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All of this makes me wonder, is the hospital to blame or the poor health of the foreigner not getting regular checkups then hoping to being saved in a third world country when the grim reaper comes calling. Obviously, Dumaguete does not provide world class health care. Try and pay fo St. Lukes
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