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  1. furriner

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    Oh man, I am happy as hell with them! Reason: My Filipina wife is happy. When she’s happy, I’m happy. And by any account, they are NOT worthless.


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    Then why is it that so many maids walk off the job so frequently, regardless of what they are paid. In short, you are blowing smoke and its obvious you have not hired many domestic helpers in Philippines.
     
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    it was just an opinion about certain behavior to any employer, including employers employers, and i never said employers should do be able to do anything they want, nor will I be drawn into some kind of “human rights debate” on the subject. But the mechanism that protects the domestic employees from abuse in the Philippines the most is the existing free market, at-will employment system, with these laws being a distant second. Helpers can quit anytime and get a different job the next day (and get their 13th month bonus from you plus the new employer’s 13th month bonus if hired in September), for salary’s much higher than the law requires. Outside the Philippines, those free market, at-will employment factors are often not present for OFWs in places like Kuwait, where slavery has been a GENUINE concern and employees actually are allowed to keep the workers’ passports.


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    (Not so) Quick questions: Did you register as an employer in accordance with the act and then deduct his Phil Health and Pag-Ibig, also in accordance with the act? Those are my main sticking points. We can easily comply with the rest.

    Editorial: I do not believe the law should specify the bonus amount.

    Also, after 2 months employment, you are on the hook for the 13th month’s pay. We do happen to appreciate our helpers and pay the 13th month amount and comply with the law as best we can. What we cannot do is force them into Phil Health (sort of like the mandatory Obamacare health coverage that young people often refuse to pay). We cannot force them into Pag-Ibig although it is a very good deal for them. But I guess as a registered employer, you might actually have a way to register them?

    And a big thing is, most don’t want a contract. They just want as much money as they can get, no deductions for those things. They want flexibility to leave because they may not like you (or other reasons). They will often ask for a month’s advance, sometimes originating from the bana. In one case, that’s where the 13th month went. When I was working, it would not have been too convenient to work 1 month without pay! Yet salary advances are often requested. You can overlook the repayment but then the other helper will expect the same.

    The law is not clear if they can legally work for you by their choice with no contract. They can do that under an agency, an option we refuse to entertain. On the other hand, if they wanted a contract, I would oblige; I like the idea. They do not. It is intended to help them but only if they plan to have a ‘permanent’ job. But even if a maid wants a permanent job, the bana may not as he might get tired of cooking for himself and watching after the kids IF someone is watching the kids, something a responsible employer must be aware of; don’t hire somebody if there is no one to watch the kids. Ask that question when you interview.




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    It took them 72 years to make a law protecting the rights of domestic helpers.
     
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    What I posted here was not the act in it's entirety. You have to go to the link to read the entire thing. Above are just the Employment Terms and Conditions:

    Meals are covered under "Rights and Privileges".

    SEC. 5. Standard of Treatment. – The employer or any member of the household shall not subject a domestic worker or “kasambahay” to any kind of abuse nor inflict any form of physical violence or harassment or any act tending to degrade the dignity of a domestic worker.

    SEC. 6. Board, Lodging and Medical Attendance. – The employer shall provide for the basic necessities of the domestic worker to include at least three (3) adequate meals a day and humane sleeping arrangements that ensure safety.

    The employer shall provide appropriate rest and assistance to the domestic worker in case of illnesses and injuries sustained during service without loss of benefits.

    At no instance shall the employer withdraw or hold in abeyance the provision of these basic necessities as punishment or disciplinary action to the domestic worker.

    SEC. 7. Guarantee of Privacy. – Respect for the privacy of the domestic worker shall be guaranteed at all times and shall extend to all forms of communication and personal effects. This guarantee equally recognizes that the domestic worker is obliged to render satisfactory service at all times.

    SEC. 8. Access to Outside Communication. – The employer shall grant the domestic worker access to outside communication during free time: Provided, That in case of emergency, access to communication shall be granted even during work time. Should the domestic worker make use of the employer’s telephone or other communication facilities, the costs shall be borne by the domestic worker, unless such charges are waived by the employer.

    SEC. 9. Right to Education and Training. – The employer shall afford the domestic worker the opportunity to finish basic education and may allow access to alternative learning systems and, as far as practicable, higher education or technical and vocational training. The employer shall adjust the work schedule of the domestic worker to allow such access to education or training without hampering the services required by the employer.

    SEC. 10. Prohibition Against Privileged Information. – All communication and information pertaining to the employer or members of the household shall be treated as privileged and confidential, and shall not be publicly disclosed by the domestic worker during and after employment. Such privileged information shall be inadmissible in evidence except when the suit involves the employer or any member of the household in a crime against persons, property, personal liberty and security, and chastity.
     
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    Sure. I Googled "domestic helper law philippines" and came up with:

    Republic Act No. 10361

    The pay is:
    Below are the full employment terms and conditions.

    SEC. 19. Health and Safety. – The employer shall safeguard the health and safety of the domestic worker in accordance with laws, rules and regulations, with due consideration of the peculiar nature of domestic work.

    SEC. 20. Daily Rest Period. – The domestic worker shall be entitled to an aggregate daily rest period of eight (8) hours per day.

    SEC. 21. Weekly Rest Period. – The domestic worker shall be entitled to at least twenty-four (24) consecutive hours of rest in a week. The employer and the domestic worker shall agree in writing on the schedule of the weekly rest day of the domestic worker: Provided, That the employer shall respect the preference of the domestic worker as to the weekly rest day when such preference is based on religious grounds. Nothing in this provision shall deprive the domestic worker and the employer from agreeing to the following:

    (a) Offsetting a day of absence with a particular rest day;

    (b) Waiving a particular rest day in return for an equivalent daily rate of pay;

    (c) Accumulating rest days not exceeding five (5) days; or

    (d) Other similar arrangements.

    SEC. 22. Assignment to Nonhousehold Work. – No domestic worker shall be assigned to work in a commercial, industrial or agricultural enterprise at a wage rate lower than that provided for agricultural or nonagricultural workers. In such cases, the domestic worker shall be paid the applicable minimum wage.

    SEC. 23. Extent of Duty. – The domestic worker and the employer may mutually agree for the former to temporarily perform a task that is outside the latter’s household for the benefit of another household. However, any liability that will be incurred by the domestic worker on account of such arrangement shall be borne by the original employer. In addition, such work performed outside the household shall entitle the domestic worker to an additional payment of not less than the existing minimum wage rate of a domestic worker. It shall be unlawful for the original employer to charge any amount from the said household where the service of the domestic worker was temporarily performed.

    SEC 24. Minimum Wage. – The minimum wage of domestic workers shall not be less than the following:

    (a) Two thousand five hundred pesos (P2,500.00) a month for those employed in the National Capital Region (NCR);

    (b) Two thousand pesos (P2,000.00) a month for those employed in chartered cities and first class municipalities; and

    (c) One thousand five hundred pesos (P1,500.00) a month for those employed in other municipalities.

    After one (1) year from the effectivity of this Act, and periodically thereafter, the Regional Tripartite and Productivity Wage Boards (RTPWBs) shall review, and if proper, determine and adjust the minimum wage rates of domestic workers.

    SEC 25. Payment of Wages. – Payment of wages shall be made on time directly to the domestic worker to whom they are due in cash at least once a month. The employer, unless allowed by the domestic worker through a written consent, shall make no deductions from the wages other than that which is mandated by law. No employer shall pay the wages of a domestic worker by means of promissory notes, vouchers, coupons, tokens, tickets, chits, or any object other than the cash wage as provided for under this Act.

    The domestic worker is entitled to a thirteenth month pay as provided for by law.

    SEC. 26. Pay Slip. – The employer shall at all times provide the domestic worker with a copy of the pay slip containing the amount paid in cash every pay day, and indicating all deductions made, if any. The copies of the pay slip shall be kept by the employer for a period of three (3) years.

    SEC. 27. Prohibition on Interference in the Disposal of Wages. – It shall be unlawful for the employer to interfere with the freedom of any domestic worker to dispose of the latter’s wages. The employer shall not force, compel or oblige the domestic worker to purchase merchandise, commodities or other properties from the employer or from any other person, or otherwise make use of any store or services of such employer or any other person.

    SEC 28. Prohibition Against Withholding of Wages. – It shall be unlawful for an employer, directly or indirectly, to withhold the wages of the domestic worker. If the domestic worker leaves without any justifiable reason, any unpaid salary for a period not exceeding fifteen (15) days shall be forfeited. Likewise, the employer shall not induce the domestic worker to give up any part of the wages by force, stealth, intimidation, threat or by any other means whatsoever.

    SEC. 29. Leave Benefits. – A domestic worker who has rendered at least one (1) year of service shall be entitled to an annual service incentive leave of five (5) days with pay: Provided, That any unused portion of said annual leave shall not be cumulative or carried over to the succeeding years. Unused leaves shall not be convertible to cash.

    SEC. 30. Social and Other Benefits. – A domestic worker who has rendered at least one (1) month of service shall be covered by the Social Security System (SSS), the Philippine Health Insurance Corporation (PhilHealth), and the Home Development Mutual Fund or Pag-IBIG, and shall be entitled to all the benefits in accordance with the pertinent provisions provided by law.

    Premium payments or contributions shall be shouldered by the employer. However, if the domestic worker is receiving a wage of Five thousand pesos (P5,000.00) and above per month, the domestic worker shall pay the proportionate share in the premium payments or contributions, as provided by law.

    The domestic worker shall be entitled to all other benefits under existing laws.

    SEC. 31. Rescue and Rehabilitation of Abused Domestic Workers. – Any abused or exploited domestic worker shall be immediately rescued by a municipal or city social welfare officer or a social welfare officer from the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) in coordination with the concerned barangay officials. The DSWD and the DILG shall develop a standard operating procedure for the rescue and rehabilitation of abused domestic workers, and in coordination with the DOLE, for possible subsequent job placement.
     
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