Best Posts in Thread: High Level of intollerance in Dumaguete and Lee Plaza

It's true that there are forwarders who are set up to accept packages from Amazon and other vendors, box them up and ship them. I plan to make use of one myself. However, that is a VERY different situation from Amazon having their own presence in the Philippines. The attraction of Amazon shopping (and arguably the primary reason they are putting brick-and-mortar stores out of business) is the near immediacy of delivery and ease of returns. Getting your product in two days, rather than two months (your bi-monthly routine), is not even comparable. Not being able to make returns may make the freight forwarders even less attractive.

I imagine Amazon has researched Lazada and any other online services here and found that they can come in and take the business away simply because they are Amazon, and Lazada is (by their own admission) an Amazon "wanna be." Amazon has the clout (read: money) to come in and dominate almost overnight and they will be widely accepted.

 

They opened up BPOs here because it is one of the few low-pay countries which has English as a second language and where the staff are able to communicate and be understood (I think many of us struggled when BPOs were located in other countries, which I do not wish to name here). But are the staff well-educated? They are probably the cream and must have been trained in the specifics of the companies they represent but if you tell them you are in Arkansas, would they have any idea where it is?

I think Filipinos are 'valued' (not a term which applies everywhere) for their hard work and willingness to accept low pay within the country where they work. Many NEED to work and so grind on accepting 1 day off a month, 15-hour working days and low pay - and they do it all for their families, especially their children. I admire them for their sacrifice but wish they did not have to accept the abuse some countries give them. The only way out of it is to develop skilled jobs within the Philippines - and the key to that is education.

 

You are right Notmyrealname doesn't compare education level in the Philippines with Singapore, South Korea, and Japan. I agree with most of your statements, but the way I see it, the Philippines doesn't want to look too other countries education systems, we do it the way we always have done it, and the top of the pop, read the people in power, they are not interested in well-educated people, what will happen if the people in the Philippines can see and understand what's going on here? A negatively charged word, discipline is needed here, from all in the education system, teachers don't show up many times, what that tells the students about professionalism? Nothing will change before the people in power want the change to happen, and then they need to find their own way to raise the standard of education in respect for their own culture and not by adopting other countries education systems but of course, learn from the outside world

 

I think you will see that Notmyrealname did not put a PH education up there with Singapore. He was stating that PH need not look to the Western systems for a benchmark - because some Asian countries already have very high education standards.
However, my experiences in Singapore and also Shanghai (to add China to the list) is that kids are piled high with homework, which the young daughter of my ex struggled to complete over the weekend and as a result had zero time for play!
The systems used were also very much rote learning, and discussion and explanation not very present!
Getting kids to understand why things are they way they are is paramount in building flexible thinking and common sense.
Simply copying, and repetition of the book contents/what the teacher said is not what is needed IMHO.
I think however that if PH does at some point start changing things, it will probably be following the techniques of the Asian countries rather than America or Europe.

 

Hi atm I am living in Thailand and as i am a senior citizen I have noted that there is next to none places to sit and wait either in the stores or outside perhaps customer services should take note Sorry if I am going slightly of topic PS I am considering moving to P.I so that is why i joined this site today Have a Fantastic day

 

I'd say this is a classic - an underpaid guard, enforcing the little bit of authority he or she has, by any means, without paying attention to the actual circumstances, because, well, that's all they have. Or, maybe they hate being a dick themselves, but do it anyway for fear of losing the job.

But it is right, to somehow keep an utterly undisciplined population in check, there can be no exceptions. Those who can differentiate between "its OK to sit down here because there are not many people walking into the mall currently and I'm not in the way" and "im blocking the entrance and nobody gets in and out of the mall" on their own have to suffer unfortunately.

 

First off keep in mind the guard likely doesn't care. They receive orders from the top and if they don't comply 200% they are promptly fired and unlikely to find work again as a guard as the big places often ruin a guard if fired with the placement companies out of spite (seen it happen a few times. Those at the top making the calls don't see or care about circumstances. To them an old woman who just spent 100k shopping is no different then the 14 year old street urchin sitting down begging as they tell the guard NO one sitting outside the entrances and don't establish a basic frame of who it refers to. Yet if that guard doesn't say something and the boss happens to see/hear of it then bye bye, no excuses.

The school system here is a joke as well. Many public schools use one book for every subject and that is only now starting to change and that one book is often covering more then 1 year as well. Now compare to developed countries every subject has its own book and that may even change to a different book every year. Teachers are hard pressed on making *lesson plans* for each day that look *pretty* and that is what is taught in college for teachers. Almost none of these kids know their multiplication table or can do what is considered simple math to you and I even when graduated high school. Some of the private schools are better as far as the teachers and books go but they face the same problem they can't control which are spoiled brat kids and parents who don't care ruining it for the rest.

As far as the other issues nothing will change here. The people are more stubborn then a donkey and refuse to accept their own faults. Laws are in the books that could handle so many issues and have been in the books for over a decade but nothing is enforced even slightly because out of every 10 people rounded up likely 9 are guilty of whatever the charge is such as littering, smoking in public, etc etc.