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  1. PatO

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    Bacong is a pretty good location in terms of getting to the Robinson's mall or Dauin beaches/dive resorts in 10-12 minutes. There are actually a couple swimming beaches here. No nightlife though. Traffic getting worse going to town but not nearly as bad as to town from the north. Restaurants, well we have Chris's place for a burger and beer.
     
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    Sounds like what you are looking for would be either Dumaguete or Olongapo. Both have their pros and cons. Traffic in the Philippines sucks during rush hour in any urbanized area and the beaches surrounding those same areas are most likely going to suck because of the complete lack of concern the locals have for their environment or for cleaning up after themselves. You are going to have to drive at least 30 minutes away from any urbanized area to get to any halfway decent beach (great beaches are few and far between in this country).

    I see that you didn't complain about the pollution in your post about Cebu....Olongapo has more vehicles spitting out black smoke than Dumaguete (even though it is only a third of the size) but it is nowhere close to the levels Cebu has. The food in Olongapo is far superior (both local and foreign food) than you will find in Dumaguete and you will not have much problem finding imported goods at the malls there. The downside of Olongapo is going to be the women and local business "culture" :meh:. There are more women there with a lot of experience with expats and know all the cons and methods for "extracting cash" and they will sniff out an inexperienced expat quickly and chew them up and spit them out. It is a dog eat dog place and unless you know what the prices should be (and know how to negotiate) you will most certainly be spending a lot more money there than you would in Dumaguete. It gets really old, really fast having to negotiate a lower price for almost everything you do.
    For the "food poisoning" I would suggest eating lots of yogurt before you come to the Philippines again. It is probably not so much food poisoning as it is your body not being used to the local bacteria in food. Yogurt should help your gut build up some defenses to it. I have the same problem when I occasionally go back to the US with 'food poisoning".

    Concerning you phone being stolen: I imagine it wasn't snatched out of your hands or your pockets......which is where you phone should always stay. If it was stolen out of your house/hotel room I'd suggest not leaving it behind when you go out and to be careful who you invite back to you house/room. I believe this one was probably due to you not being diligent in keeping your belongings secure. Many locals here have hands as sticky as the geckos you see crawling on the walls and ceilings.

    Locals are crap drivers pretty much everywhere you go. The only places you can avoid this is by living on the old US military bases, Clark and Subic. Those were the only two places I've been in this country where the traffic laws were strictly enforced.

    As for girls not staying faithful.....you'll just have to figure that one out through trial and error. If you ever find a sure fire method for finding a faithful partner please report back to us......and then write a book about it because you will make a lot of money if you figure that one out.
     
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    I agree about Q.C. 's pollution. I had an office in Eastwood and both the traffic to get there and the pollution all day was horrible.
     
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    QC, Manila, Cebu, Davao, CDO Top 5 cities with the most crime

    Manila -The Philippine National Police (PNP) announced on Friday that in the period from 2010 to 2015, in Quezon City,the most crimes were registered. The Philippine Statistics Authority (PSA) says in Quezon City a total of 65,514 crimes were recorded in the past five years. Followed Quezon City of Manila with 54,689, Cebu City with 38,797, Davao City with 37,684 and Cagayan de Oro City with 31 345 crimes. On 6th place Baguio City follows with 27,090, 7th Zamboanga City with 20,736, 8 Iloilo City with 19,560, 9 General Santos City with 17,882 and 10th place Bacolod City with 14,220 crimes. There follow Angeles City (11,980), Makati City (10,897), Iligan City (11,074), Naga City (10,971) and Mandaue City (10,677). Of the total 383,116 registered crimes in the 15 cities, were 49.3 percent or 188,958 crimes thefts. Followed by injury with 92 049), robbery with 78,605, car theft with 12,598, with 6,010 murder and manslaughter with 3,232. Most murders there were 1,032 in Davao City. 04/02/2016 - 4:10
     
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    Thanks for doing the math on Thailand heh heh. Well it's still over 30k cheaper than the Maybank deposit requirements for the Malaysian program. Of course the reference that I posted was a company that you don't have to use and DIY is much cheaper. The SRRV Philippines program is much cheaper now for military retirees being accepted but yeah you still have to 50 y/o.

    UPDATED: Special Philippine Retirement Visa Offered to Veterans – Free Assistance | My Philippine Life


    Back when I was living in NYC I used governmentvacationsrewards.com to actually get the lowest airfare to Honolulu to take my boys to stay at the Hale Koa DOD hotel. We went up to Bellows Air Force Station used the beautiful beach (w/lifeguards) and rented some snorkeling equipment that we later used at a popular preserve (but nothing compared to the Phils of course like Apo Island or down on the bottom of Negros etc.) and hiked up a marked mountain trail. Waikiki beach was great and the Hale Koa is indescribably luscious for us. Life is what you make it.
    You do need deep pockets to live there generally unless you get a small place. Manhattan price equivalents. You can live on military housing now as a retiree near Ft. Schafter now but at the same price as on the local economy so what's the use ? I dunno.
    Guam has a population of about 30% Filipino by the way. I compare Guam to the Phils because there's no air of water pollution to speak of, the Chamorro food is way better, and yeah they do speak English also. The corruption is reportedly similar but as retired military you can use the Navy hospital. And oh it has the same tropical climate.
    BTW the Dominican Republic and Nicaragua as well as Belize have retirement immigration programs based on the Panamanian model (the DR used copy and paste it looks like lol). As far as I know Costa Rica and Panama still have the 90 day wonder visa run thing going on and Filipinos can visit CR 30 days visa free.
     
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    After several visits to Dumaguete over the past few years, we put it at the top of the list of a place to retire. I know "visiting" is not the same as "residing" no matter where you go. Through a very close Filipina friend, we were lucky enough to be introduced to a high-ranking member of the provincial government who lives in the countryside somewhere near Valencia. He and his wife were pretty clear that getting some altitude makes living much easier than down in the heat of Dumaguete. So, even though I tell all my friends and associates in the US that I plan on retiring to Dumaguete later this year, I really mean in or near Valencia. From reading this thread, that sounds like a reasonable idea.

    I will spend a few months later this year finding a good place to rent an apartment. One suggestion made in the thread is to live in the neighborhood for at least a few days/nights before renting a place. But how can you actually do that if there is no hotel, B&B, etc. in that neighborhood? Is there anything like that in Valencia? I found two possibilities (resorts), but neither appears to be anywhere near a neighborhood where people might actually reside.

    One nagging question I have about living in Valencia: Is there any form of public transportation that makes the trek to Dumaguete on a reasonable schedule? Or, do the trikes (which I really like) wander through Valencia at all? Can trikes be summoned? I will eventually purchase an automobile, but hate driving generally and despise driving in heavy traffic. I suspect the car will stay parked in Valencia most of the time.
     
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    This thread is becoming a mess. I have split the side conversations into 2 different threads already (including posts I have made). Any future posts that do not speak directly to the OP's question will be permanently deleted, no matter how useful the information is.

    Just as a reminder to what was said in the OP:
    If you have questions that don't have anything to do with this start another thread in the appropriate section.
     
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    True, one man's hell is another's heaven, I know one guy who loves Puerto Galera for the small town, but plenty of nightlife and diving, and another who loves Cebu and hates PG. Me personally, I hate mosquitos having grown up in Michigan, so at a minimum I require a place with windows and doors. :happy:
     
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    Guam? Kinda expensive and it's part of 'Muricah......and 'Muricah has lots of rules and laws....and they actually enforce them.
    Wait, what? Guam not expensive? I suppose if we are comparing it to Hawaii maybe not, but here in the real world "expensive" doesn't even begin to describe Hawaii.

    Note: I visited Hawaii 6 years ago and I absolutely DESPISED everything about the place. One night in Waikiki I was approached while getting money out of the ATM by the most nasty, smelly, malnourished, body sore infested, methhead of a hooker I've ever seen in my life and asked if I would like a bit of fun for $300........per hour. :2rofl:After I caught my breath from LMFAO I told her to lay off the pipe and to FO.....then I went the nearest hole in the wall dive bar and bought myself a $10 rum and coke (you know, the cheap stuff in Hawaii :shifty:).....where I was later presented with the same business proposal I had at the ATM earlier from 4 more equally nasty and obviously AIDS infested methhead hookers. This lovely evening happened the night after I had to pay a $75 entrance fee to get into a club, only to find out, once inside, that the place was completely empty.....and the drinks were $18+. :meh: Did I mention that the $300 a night hotel I was staying at had stinky black water coming out of the shower......and when they moved me to a new room, 3 nights before my flight out, I had my first experience with bedbugs? Yeah.....Hawaii is awesome and totally a great value! :shifty:

    A person who considers Hawaii and Guam plans "A" and "B" for retirement/relocation should probably put the Philippines around plan "P" or "Q". The Philippines should not be compared to Guam.....and never even mentioned in the same breath as Hawaii.

    Hawaii - Guam - Philippines = Apples - Oranges - Microbial alien life on Mars

    That is not easy, convenient or affordable for the vast majority of expats. I have not heard of a country anywhere that is so welcoming and accommodating to tourists when it comes to visas as the Philippines is. If you are single, not expected to die in the next 20 years and have absolutely no intentions of getting married, the Philippines is about the only options out there for long stays in a foreign country. If there is another country out there that will let a single tourist in his 20's, 30's or 40's stay for 3 years straight without any type of financial "investment" obligations I'd be very interested in hearing about it. To my knowledge no such pace exists other than the Philippines.
    Step 1: "Currently hold a passport of his/her nationality with a non-immigrant visa type that allows him/her to stay in Thailand on the basis of a one year visa extension for a total of at least 3 years up to the submission date at submission of the application."
    Out at step one.....but let's assume that I have already obtained this mysterious 1 year visa and have extended it a few times (which I'm guessing costs significantly more than "free"):
    Application fee - 7,600 THB
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    (and never will be) married to a Thair residence book - 191,400 THB
    Multiple re-entry permit (good for one year) - 3,800 THB
    Endorsement in residence book for temporary departure - 1,900 THB
    To re-apply for residence permit when revoked due to late return to Thailand or departure/return without re- entry permit -(i)Application fee – 7,600 THB
    If application approved, or reissue of residence book – 95,700 THB
    Total - 308000 THB = $8840.42 USD = No thanks

    1. Applicant must be 50 years of age or over.
    Crap, didn't even get past the first requirement. Guess I'll get around to reading step 2 in another 17 years. :meh:
     
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    He didn't mention Mongolia. I watching a travel video about it and it sounded interesting. They don't eat fish (generally) so to not anger the water spirits. For meals the appetizer is meat followed by a meat entrée with, you guessed it, meat for desert. I have not a clue as to the cost of living there though.

    The author of that site is saying you should consider living places where most of them require more hoop jumping than the Philippines! Maybe we should count our blessings?

    Personal observation, where I am now North central Texas it isn't as expensive as he is saying you need for his top picks (not the cheapest places) but it is about 20 C here right now and I have the heat running because I have not yet re-acclimatized. Damned if I want to live anywhere cold again. Nepal can't be all bad, there is a woman who works at a gas station 5km from me who is from Nepal and her English is better than mine. :smile:
     
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