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Is DGT overrated?

Discussion in 'Dumaguete City' started by Hindgt, May 2, 2019.

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  1. osodelnorte

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    burgers.. surely you jest..
     
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  2. tis me

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    You like the lack of enforcement of the rules. You are joking I assume.
     
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    You are giving the Thais too much credit. Most of the infrastructure is being paid for by China. On the "Belt and
    Road initiative. The junta has basically sold out to China. The new highway and rail will connect China to the Southern Thai coast.

    Thailand’s Junta Pushes China’s Belt and Road Initiative Despite Differing Visions
    By Editor on May 3, 2019Comments Off on Thailand’s Junta Pushes China’s Belt and Road Initiative Despite Differing Visions

    Prayuth's appearance at Beijing forum shows warming ties but divergence persists.
     
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  4. TheDude

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    I believe you are taking this too literally. I don't know where you are from, but I understand his feeling as someone also from the US.

    Many areas of the US have a heavy and visible police presence and near daily headlines of police brutality, corruption and other bad behavior. I feel enforcement changes the fabric of life in that society but it doesn't necessarily fix the problems it sets out to fix. In Dumaguete, you get problems from a lack of enforcement, but you get other side effects as well. It's like a stack of bricks where you push a brick in from one direction and it comes out the other direction. From all changes you get positives and negatives.

    We do complain a lot about a lack of enforcement, but we also need to be careful of what we wish for.
     
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    TheDude, May 18, 2019
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    No, I'm not joking. There are pros and cons to a lack of enforcement. The pros are that I can do pretty much whatever I like so long as I am not hurting someone else. As a person who keeps to himself and does care slightly about others' comfort I try to keep my actions reasonable and I mostly play within societal norms. The cons come from people who don't do that. Luckily most people tend to be good people that have some concern for the comfort of the people around them. The assh*les are louder and more visible but will eventually get what is coming to them.

    In the US I could be driving on an empty highway going 10mph over the speed limit not hurting anyone and get a ticket. I think that is bullsh*t and prefer, with all its faults, the Filipino way of traffic enforcement. I don't need or want the government to be my nanny and hold my hand in every aspect of life. The Philippines offers true freedom IMO. I'm lucky to have the money and assets needed to live a happy life in a free capitalist society. I'm sure it sucks for those that don't have that.
     
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    Rye83, May 19, 2019
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    In NZ if you're even 1 mph over the speed limit you'll be nabbed by a police camera.
     
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    What rating are you talking about? Yes, I have 10 years here too.....:alien:
     
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  8. culumbinus

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    Hey Rye, I most certainly agree on you 110 percent. The key principle there is... just be good and pleasant without hurting someone else. This is Dumaguete.
     
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    culumbinus, May 19, 2019
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  9. Stefan_Negros

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    I don't care at all how and by whom Duma has been rated.

    All I know is I still feel quiet happy here. I am focused on my family and want to live a peaceful life. Avoiding conflicts as much as possible.

    There are many issues in Duma. No doubt about it. Accept it, or leave. You will not change it.
     
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    Stefan_Negros, May 19, 2019
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    What about the people who don't? How do you regulate them? I think there in lies the challenge, your idea of good and someone else's idea may also vary significantly, someone you call an *sshole probably has friends that think he is cool. Who gets to decide where that line is? I think some kind of structure is needed to avoid chaos. There are plenty of good, well intentioned people that have made serious mistakes even with lines. I'm not here to say where those lines should be, just that I think we need them. The question becomes how much risk or how many lives is freedom worth. Drinking and driving, along with speeding are good examples.
     
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