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Passport Question leaving with dual citizen children

Discussion in 'Passports and Visas' started by Darran_Stanners, May 14, 2019.

  1. Darran_Stanners

    Darran_Stanners DI Junior Member

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    Hello

    we are planning a family trip home for the summer both out kids are dual citizens irish/filipino, and both with valid passports (they have both irish and filipino passports) in hand, my question is,

    will there be any drama at the airport leaving without the wife, she has a busy schedule and will follow us to Ireland a week after we leave, there is possibly some archaic law preventing them from leaving with me and not her. thats what i want to know, is it simply a matter of showing up and leaving, or will it need the usual red ribbon letter from the pope, notarised 5 times, copied 12 times,signed three times,blessed 5 times.

    anyone ever been in this situation (kids are 5 and 7)

    thanks
     
  2. grandpainak

    grandpainak DI Senior Member Showcase Reviewer Veteran Army

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    If the last/family name on your pass port is not the same on both of their pass ports. They will probably label you a human trafficker and all kinds of "Tahee bagio" will begin. Please keep us informed as to what goes down at your departure.
    I am very interested in the answer to your question.
     
  3. TheDude

    TheDude DI Forum Patron Highly Rated Poster

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    The key term (for Google) you might be looking for is "DSWD" which is clearance for minors. This resource shows that either parent doesn't need this clearance and has information for other scenarios. I'm sure someone who has gone through this will weigh in, but what I don't see here is how you prove that you are the parent. I imagine a birth certificate would be one part? I'm also guessing that the DSWD is the only other process you would need to worry about.

    https://www.philippine-embassy.org.sg/the-philippines-2/dswd-travel-clearance-for-filipino-minors-2/
     
  4. IggyPop

    IggyPop DI Member

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    My guess is the mothers written consent would be needed since you both have parental responsibility for your young kids. You should enquire at the airport to find out.
     
  5. cabb

    cabb DI Senior Member ✤Forum Sponsor✤

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    I know when leaving the US, I've had a certified travel document document created for my wife, but it was never looked at.
    https://www.tripsavvy.com/documents-for-international-travel-with-minors-3266959

    It looks like there is a policy for Filipino minors. Seems like as long as with one parent you are OK.
    https://www.philippine-embassy.org.sg/the-philippines-2/dswd-travel-clearance-for-filipino-minors-2/

    MINORS EXEMPTED FROM SECURING A TRAVEL CLEARANCE

    The only exemptions to the DSWD travel clearance are minor children who are:

    • travelling with either parent
    • travelling with the legal guardian
    • immigrants to another country and are holding a valid permanent residency card, dependents visa, or other pass issued by another country which proves residency with parents abroad. A minor who holds a permanent residency card of another country, or a valid pass such as dependents visa/pass/identification or permanent resident visa/pass/identification card is no longer required to secure travel clearance from DSWD.
    • not a Filipino citizen and are holding a foreign passport
    A minor who is a Filipino citizen and living abroad but does not hold either a permanent resident visa or equivalent pass issued by another country is required to secure a travel clearance.
     
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  6. okiebound

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    I never had problems traveling back and forth between the US and the Philippines with my dual citizen daughter. I just carried her dual citizenship papers along with her US passport. Nobody ever gave me a bit of trouble.
     
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    Darran_Stanners DI Junior Member

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    Yes Yes,but you are the mother, just something tells me, travelling with the father is a whole different scenario
     
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  8. Roadwitch80

    Roadwitch80 DI Junior Member

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    When I had a return ticket, I didn’t need a parental consent from the parent who wasn’t traveling with us. When I had a one way ticket, I had to cough out the documents. That’s been my experience.
     
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    cabb DI Senior Member ✤Forum Sponsor✤

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    The regulation says:
    • travelling with either parent
    Even a legal guardian is OK.
     
  10. okiebound

    okiebound DI Forum Adept Showcase Reviewer ✤Forum Sponsor✤

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    You might be right, but I wouldn't think it would matter. She was both of ours, biological child, so I think her dad would have had no problems taking her, either. But, you just never know these days.....
     
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