It's not the population of China that should be blamed, just their elite and corrupt government. The people generally are fine, but have no choice but to accept their authoritarian governance.
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Always a Poppy DI Senior Member Restricted Account
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Face masks now mandatory in cars even if all passengers are from the same household..
AAAAARGHHH NO NO, please stop the madness now- Agree x 4
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Always a Poppy DI Senior Member Restricted Account
Not wishing to kick off the whole debate about masks again, but as that is the topic of the thread, thought I'd share recent experience.
Visited the city centre public market on Saturday. Notice at the entrance saying that mask+face shield required for entry. The 'enforcer' at the gate was wearing his face shield on top of his head, as were most vendors and customers inside. We went to enter and he stopped us and said we need a face shield. He pointed to the vendor outside and said to the wife, 'only 20 pesos ma'am'. The wife pointed at that neither he nor anyone else inside were wearing their shields correctly, so what were they for? he said, sorry ma'am, policy'. At this she went into full bore foreigner mode, telling him we could afford to buy shields, but it's pointless if nobody wears it correctly and shamed him into pulling his shield over his face. He didn't bother asking anyone to wear their shields correctly and would not give in to us, so we walked away, me with my mouth open at the wife's outburst.
Today, after taking over an hour to do 5kms into town (what a great idea having a half-price fuel promotion three days before Christmas), we visited Hypermart on the way back. Face mask and shield required. Inside were guards wandering around, politely asking customers to wear their face shields correctly, backed up by continuous PA announcement. How refreshing that there are some institutions that can actually do it correctly here.- Like x 2
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Always a Poppy DI Senior Member Restricted Account
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I saw the "......even if in same family..." bit a couple days ago. Unfortunately, the Phillipine government has a habit of passing unenforceable laws, like no more than two on a cycle where there is no viable public transport for a family of 4. I think the idea is to protect people, say at a checkpoint, but this is one law i will probably ignore. I do think helmet compliance and mask compliance are high. My mask compliance as soon as i open the car door is 100%, even going to our front gate.
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This is a realistic way to formulate the law. The enforcer should not be put in the position of needing to verify the claimed domicile of each passenger. You know how it will go, otherwise.
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Notmyrealname DI Forum Luminary Highly Rated Poster Showcase Reviewer
I can see how easily this can happen and I am not faulting anyone's response. The truth is still, of course, that we don't know if any vaccine will work on any future mutations. The only clue so far is
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54867653
"The coronavirus mutation causing concern in Denmark has arisen before in mink, scientists have revealed. The mutated virus has been detected retrospectively in mink at a farm in the Netherlands, but it did not spread to humans, said a leading Dutch expert.
There are fears the mutated virus could undermine vaccine development.
The genetic change is in a part of the virus known as the spike protein [the part which allows the virus to attach to the host cell], which is important in immunity, and a target for future vaccines and treatments."
..... Prof James Wood, head of the department of veterinary medicine at the University of Cambridge, UK [said] "The genetic changes needed careful evaluation, as reports from Denmark suggested an effect on immunity."- Like x 1
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