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Discussion in 'News and Weather' started by PatO, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Dave_Hounddriver

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    What if they had hit a civilian plane while "testing"?

    Passenger plane flies past North Korea ballistic missile crash site just minutes after test
     
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    I am not American but I think the USA and every country in the World has the right to decide who is threatening them and what they intend to do about it in order to protect their country. The wise man looks far forward and analyses intentions, the fool waits for events to happen.

    Just in case I am told that the USA is threatening NK and so NK has the right to obtain nuclear weapons, I reply now that if NK had not acted in the past in such an aggressive way and was willing to strike a diplomatic deal, there would be no crisis. North Vietnam did not possess nuclear weapons but won its war against the USA and its use of conventional weapons (not nukes, even though it owned them). I am not sure what the USA or any country thinks about a communist-governed united Vietnam, but they appear to be getting on very well economically and functioning as a State without the need to acquire nuclear weapons. Although the analogy is not exact (in that NK should never be allowed to govern a United Korea), there could be much trade and other co-operation between NK and SK and peaceful coexistence is not at all impossible. The only problem is that NK is ruled by a nut-case who is in great danger of miscalculation and that miscalculation need only be minor for the end result to be major. As a UK citizen, I am proud to have the United States of America on my side and would rather endure 1 million years of their rule than 1 year of NK's ideology.
     
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    Did they even come close to hitting one? The US tests missiles all the time and we know to check the flight tracker prior to launching. Nk could have very well have done the same for their missile's flight path.
     
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    Well said, so what is your recommendation? I happen to think the Vietnam war was the biggest mistake in my lifetime, although the invasion of Bagdad is close behind. As a former U.S. Marine I am against the U.S. losing young men in foreign wars.
     
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    First has to be diplomacy. Offer NK a South Korea free of US troops and offer trade agreements with SK and even the USA if they are willing to denuke. The danger is that they will attack SK after US troops are gone. In my view there is only one way to deal with that - warn them in the strongest terms that any attack on SK will result in an overwhelming attack by the US to destroy as much as their military as possible and also to destroy their economy. Don't just say it - mean it. If it is discovered that they hid nukes and start using them, the response is the obliteration of NK. Again, do not just say it.

    If NK refuses all forms of diplomacy, or makes impossible demands, and then continues to produce nukes and threatens the USA, I uphold the right of the USA to obliterate them. I have said before, it may be a straight choice between a disaster of catastrophic proportions NOW (even millions of deaths) or Armageddon in the FUTURE. No one can lightly make a decision which results in the death of millions but neither can they ignore a situation which may result in the death of billions.
     
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    The article I quoted and linked to seems to think they did but I guess it depends on your definition of close. Missing it by 10 minutes seems a bit close for comfort to me.
     
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    And what if it had been 10 minutes early/late? (Not sure which direction in time the miss was).
     
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    Depends on aircraft, but using 600mph, you are talking 100 miles. Given the volume of the atmosphere, it's relatively close. Not sure I'd be sweating it. However, if they gave a distance, like 1000 ft from each other, that's a different story.
     
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    Recently watched several Documentaries on 9/11 which opened up a lot regards the lack of shared knowledge/intel and the inaction by several Agencies which may (or may not) have avoided that fateful day had they taken some type of action other than sitting on their thumbs, now we have this; (Do we need to review this in hindsight also?)

    North Korea threatens to 'sink' Japan, reduce U.S. to 'Ashes & Darkness'

    N. Korea threatens to 'sink' Japan, reduce U.S. to 'ashes and darkness'
     
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    Of course it will be reviewed in hindsight. Hindsight is easy and always there. Foresight not so much.

    "Hindsight bias, also known as the knew-it-all-along effect or creeping determinism, is the inclination, after an event has occurred, to see the event as having been predictable, despite there having been little or no objective basis for predicting it."

    We could take action against NK with disastrous repercussions. Those actions will have the same people making hindsight documentaries no matter what the outcome is.

    A documentary that was almost certainly made without all the information that is out there. The public will likely never see all the related documents released. Most documentaries I've seen on the topic are loaded with speculation.
     
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