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Parking ticket experience

Discussion in 'Dumaguete City' started by Sedona, Jun 24, 2019.

  1. Jens K

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    Photocopy is fine in all cases, in my experience.

    I think the problem with a new car / motorcycle is, that it takes few months to get the or/cr at all. Until then, you're in limbo because there is only a one week grace period from the date of buying (that may have changed by now and be not the case anymore at all). I think it was last year, got a set of papers signed by the dealer dated ahead for 8 weeks or so, enabling me to prove I just bought the bike at most 7 days ago on any given day during that time. Just hope nobody checks the actual km on the clock after two months of riding when you say "sir I just bought it new yesterday"
     
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  2. djfinn6230

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    I think with an auto, a photocopy is not just ok but it is what most people do and I will say it has always worked for us. I understand that people are not expected to leave originals in cars; you keep them at home in a safe if you can. But things constantly change so if you know for sure that you must keep originals in the vehicle, let us know.


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    Due to the way this is enforced, when you negotiate with your dealer for a new vehicle make it clear that they get no money until you have all original paperwork. We did that with Toyota. They will not be able to give you a real plate and that is ok (so you have one made with the information on your original registration) but they have to get off their butts and handcarry your paper registration through the LTO. We got our paperwork right away and then we made the bank transfer; the dealer obviously was motivated to provide it to close the sale. They can do it. To me it is completely ludicrous to pay money, or sign a loan agreement, without walking away with an original legal registration document that you own and can immediately drive the vehicle. If they refuse, walk away. Go to Cebu or Manila; they will ship it over and it is often cheaper, which pays for shipping. What if the dealer goes bankrupt before he provides you the registration months later (during which you cannot legally drive it)? Bankruptcies are common here. If you get stopped at a checkpoint, mindless enforcement could have them seize the vehicle until you provide the registration. I suspect people living,who live are natives, would not usually put up with this kind of treatment but foreigners are known to be vulnerable, thinking that this is just the way it’s done here. So they drag their feet on the paperwork. He (or she) who has the money has the call, even if it is s loan.


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    [QUOTE=" I suspect people living,who live are natives, would not usually put up with this kind of treatment but foreigners are known to be vulnerable, thinking that this is just the way it’s done here. So they drag their feet on the paperwork. He (or she) who has the money has the call, even if it is s loan.


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    I think it isa just the opposite. The locals don;t complain about anything, so thats the kind of service they get everywhere.
     
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    Outcast is absolutely correct. The locals just accept this nonsense as the norm (which it obviously is)! But another example of how things should be is the case of my purchase of a brand new Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 cc motorcycle a few years back from Philip Ang of Caloocan Sales in Manila. This was my third big bike sourced there. Soon as it cleared customs he put it on the ferry to Cebu. He promised me the papers and permanent plate number would follow a week later. And that's exactly what happened. When I asked him why he could manage what no other dealerships seem capable of his answer was "Simple, they do these things in batches in their own good time. We take the paperwork personally to the LTO immediately and make sure they are processed asap". And that is the experience I had with all my bikes from there. So if he can do it I imagine every dealership could. they simply choose not to as it's too much trouble IMHO.
     
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  6. djfinn6230

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    Thanks for that post. No matter how locals may choose to mismanage how they spend their money, most Westerners know better than that. What our cultures have in common is that most successful businesses try to please their Customers. I know that most local businesses will tell you to pound sand and not do business with you if you try to make any demands at all, but, those businesses that have been around for a while or are associated with international brands like Toyota should be better. If not, walk away. There us plenty of competition. I saw a Facebook article where a priest was badly taken advantage if by Ford in Sibulan after making a cash deposit to prepay delivery (very stupid). He definitely could have leveraged his status the money holder to avoid the resulting poor treatment.


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