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  1. danbandanna

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    Nope. As I recall, when margarine first came onto the market they boasted of a few things such as it being soft and easy to spread compared to butter. They never really claimed it tasted better but they did sometimes claim it tasted just like butter. One parlor game they played was to blindfold people and give them a taste test. A lot of people mistook margarine for butter. The big advantage of oleo margarine was that it was cheaper. It was made illegal In Wisconsin by lobbying from the very powerful dairy industry (America’s dairy state where cows outnumbered people at the time). My folks used to smuggle a few cases of margarine in from the many retail spots marked “OLEO” along the WI-Illinois border to save money.

    Nobody talked about health benefits, not until the anti-cholesterol health movement came to be, much later on, in the eighties. When the evils of saturated fat came into light, long after margarine hit the marketplace, butter was shown to be highly saturated which apparently caused the liver to make cholesterol.

    Butter became bad, margarine good.

    Margarine did not have naturally saturated fats and it was said to be poly-unsaturated.

    It was only much later that transfats came into being, artificially saturated to make them more solid than liquid. Margarine was determined to be full of transfats.

    Margarine very bad. Butter better.

    The human body did not know how to handle transfats. Margarine became much worse than butter because at least the body can process naturally saturated fats. Denmark banned all transfats. Anything marked transfats on the label dies not sell well in the USA; they are probably banned in California. But the Phils continues to sell Star Margarine, loaded with transfats and hard as a rock in 35-40C tropical ambient temperatures; useful for people with no Frigidaire.

    Like an abundance of sugar, even in the spaghetti (disgusting), fake chemical honey and air pollution, we learn to live with it all.

    But I eat Anchor Butter. I hope McDonald’s here uses only unsaturated fats for cooking fries like McDonald’s in the USA. I am pretty sure transfats will never be redeemed by the health nuts until millions of years from now if the human body ever evolves to be able to process it.

    I would not give too much credit to the USA NASA for their great competence in science for those inventions that include Tang (is that a a breakthrough?), Kevlar and lexan for space helmets; the US government only did what it does best and funded the projects. It was private industry that actually invented those things.


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    If you read an article that says some food is good/bad for you there is a good chance that the author did not actually read or understand the study (or is cherry picking data). If they didn't link directly to the study there is nearly a 100% chance what they are claiming the study says is complete bs. The way media reports science has always been a complete joke.
     
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    I totally agree that a healthy and balanced diet is the basis for a healthy life, and I think about what I eat without being fanatic. It's also very individual what and how much we need, depending on age and physical exercise, I'm 60+ and know magnesium and calcium is a good supplement so I take that together with b and c vitamin, no I'm not fanatic just want a healthy lifestyle and for sure I can feel a difference if I don't exercise and eat junk food, it happens most often if I travel or are away from home. It's just a routine to take my vitamins daily and I don't really think that much about it. I have been looking for a bee farm where they sell the honey, but not found any here nearby Dumaguete area, like all other kinds of food best by direct from the source, 2 times a week fishermen come to my door in the morning and sell fish and it's fresh, directly from the sea, taste very different from what I can buy at the market
     
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    I just bought a bottle of Pure Camiguin Honey, at a local food store in Siquijor that caters to foreigners. From the start, I suspected it was fake as is most honey sold in the Philippines, but thought I would try it anyway. The taste is comparable to honey, although it is a little runny. Still, I will not use it. My neighbors are delighted to take it. Anyone else on the forum have experience with this honey?

    Here is a link to an article on Philippine fake honey and the fact that the agency, the FDA, refuses to acknowledge the problem even though it is well know and wide spread. Of course, this is not an anomaly in the RP among government agencies that are supposed to protect the health and well being of citizens.
    http://beephilippines.info/honey-fraud/

    On the other hand, when visiting Dumaguete (I live on Siquijor) I always buy honey in the little store across the hall from the BOI. It is run by and for the benefit of the blind, which, as a private endeavor, I fully support. I have home tested it and found it to be as real as I am capable of determining. It even crystallizes over time, which is a hallmark of real honey. Again, anyone else familiar with this honey?
     
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  6. hiddenuser

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    back in the fifties as a butter substitute when big business painted butter as such a evil. remember endless ads on our first tv (a black and white zenith, with three channels available. sometimes i had to stand on the porch and hold the rabbit ears in the right "sweet spot" so the folks could see dorothy kilgallen or bennet serf? clearly!!). the older you get the more you understand conventional wisdom and what science touts today will be changed for some other miracle discovery tomorrow!

    i guess in the jungle you got switched to hydrogenated coconut oil? lol, it was good then bad and now good again
     
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    "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" . conventional wisdom is just that, what is accepted as correct as of today. i can remember when margarine was going to save human civilization
     
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    I am sure I could find many fancy definitions but IMO it is something which makes a positive contribution to the body (physical and mental). 'Unhealthy' therefore would be something having a negative effect. Of course there are things input to the body that have both effects, so it is a matter of balance. It would also depend on many other factors, such as age, existing health (where a medicine would be a positive benefit although it may have a negative impact on some parts of the body) and what a person wants to achieve.
     
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    I don't agree all need to be a pleasure or taste good, I'm sure you try to feel the pain when you exercise, some say that's not healthy, I like the pain from exercise and I'm sure the benefit from my "healthy" drink is worth the taste of sharp ginger calmed down with honey, all ingredients full of vitamins and minerals
     
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    I don't heat the honey, put it in when the mix of ginger, garlic, and citrus been through a drain and is still warm then it dissolves easily
     
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