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  1. Dr. Shiva

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    The good thing is that the goverment is not involved many times in traps. When the goverment got trapped then it is a victim of a very professional real estate scam. It is difficult to forge a fake title. But very corrupt people in the goverment can assist with doing this. Can probably be prevented by asking around in the area or on forums if there are any real estate issues around.

    The worst thing is if someone presents to you a fake title which is an exact copy from a real existing title. But even then there are protections around. Ask the barangay captain that you want to talk with the title owners. Most original title owners are not knowing that a fake seller is attempting to "sell" their lot.

    Or the multiple selling of same lot especially if it is on sale.
     
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    Home from the Attorney's now, a very productive day! The Surveyor came and went during the week, we had our Sketch and Receipt within 4 hours of him finishing his survey! (Unlike the last guy, that took 6 months to supply a fake Sketch plan due to threats made, with no receipt, and still no official plans!) Signed a Conditional Deed of Sale today for the second portion of land (so we can proceed with having the Official Survey Plans delivered) and made a contract agreement with the Seller. ALL SMOOTH sailing! :thumbsup:

    The other buyer who is buying another portion of the Lot we bought from, also came home feeling great with something finally achieved after also long trying and getting nowhere with the seller! (So TWO Happy Campers!)

    I know any future work requiring an Attorney, including the upcoming Will, and the Adoption of our Daughter will ALL be performed using this great group of people! :wink: *touch wood* :smile:
     
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    Nice to read that you finally got a positive result Brian! There are indeed good and proficient people out there - just that it's d*mn hard to find them among the dross! Well done and hope the rest of the process is plain sailing!
     
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    They were recommended from the DENR. One of the main players Father was there last week and he is also a very experienced Attorney, a very nice and knowledgeable man indeed! The main player in this team worked for more than a decade within the DENR/DAR and is VERY EXPERIENCED!

    From experience; I would avoid any of the Notary's or likewise who are very close to the Dumaguete BOI offering legal advice or otherwise, especially if you walk up the stairs and take a right turn! THAT Right turn turned out to be the WRONG turn! WOEFUL EXPERIENCE!!! :banghead:
     
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    Okay, my reply in short; I can fully agree that Attn. Rilt Dorado is indeed a very good and honest choice. Our experience: he first prevented us from buying a house and lot from a con artist. We did not know this old lady, she felt very genuine, but he knew everything about her and gave us a clear advice to stay away from her and her offer.
    Then after doing so, he guided us to a very good deal, which was price wise and legally an excellent offer, zero issues. Then after buying that without any hassle, he later helped us subdivide our land in 750 sq.m. lots, again no hassle at all and always very competitive rates.
    Always excellent communication, not only is his English perfect, but he is straight to the point and always answers my emails very well and quick.
    So, at least this particular service in Dumaguete it is a no-brainer: need a real estate attorney and surveyor, choose Att. Rilt Dorado!! His details:
    Cell: 0917 314 2565
    Ph: 035 225 1468
    Email: geoscapesurvey@yahoo.com
     
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    Bottom line: Even though you have the right to access your lot, it is probably better to seek out a different situation and walk away from a deal where you willl end up leglly using someone else's property against their will.

    This is good advice.

    Helping out mmy wife who is in the real estate business, we have seen many right of way disasters. Though the law reads that you have to provide a right of way to a landlocked property, it also states that the right of way has to be purchased, and not necessarily does it have to be the shortest route between public access and the landlocked property. the person providing the right of way has the option to choose where that right of way goes, as long as it is reasonable, meaning things like not through a body of water or on a steep, unpassable slope. That is the legality , however legality and practicality can be very different. Always negotiate for the right of way before you purchase the lot, or the price will soar. Once you own the lot, you have a very poor bargaining position. You might have to pay the inflated price, or resort to court action, and either way is a loser. You just do not want to be in a property where your neighbors hate you, and if they lose to you in court, they will hate you.

    In terms of Attorney, we have dealt with just about all the attorneys in town and there are some good ones and some bad ones. Attorney Dorado would be on the list of good. We also have dealt with most of the surveyors and again there are good and bad, Rilt Dorado again being one of the good.

    I could provide a pretty comprehensive list of the good and bad Attorneys and surveyors here, but don't want to make an enemy. If anyone wants a unbiased opinion of a surveyor or Attorney they are thinking of using, feel free to send me a private message.
     
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    Good advice Gord.

    We have to pay to gain Right of Way even though we are providing a common Right of Way for Free to locals as the path runs directly through our Lot and has done for more than a century. We looked at pushing for Right of Way through the Seller's property, but to do so would take away land from another Buyer who is only buying a smaller narrow 300m2 Lot. In front of that is a House on a narrow long Lot (maybe 150m2) which means there is no way a road could be brought in from the Highway, so we need to go through a neighbouring property where the Common Right of Way proceeds. That Owner (Care-taker) has offered to sell us a Right of Way, but it is a Communal Lot with more than one Owner, so we need to obtain the Title then search for surviving Heirs before we make an offer of a Cash Payment. Right of Way is a very complex process and can make or break a deal, and as per the News here, has been the death of several who have pushed their luck.

    I am getting Joshua (Surveyor) to mark on the Plans where the right of way will go through our Lot as I do not want it running through the middle making around 350m2 useless, instead I am redirecting the right of way to turn left where it enters our Lot, then right, following the Eastern end of the Lot so that we may make better use of the Lot. Both the Attorney and Surveyor wants us to ask for a 6M wide Right of Way so that a Truck/ Car/ Tricycle/ Motorbike/ Pedestrian can freely pass, but I think 4M wide is enough and would most likely cause less of a problem with securing a Right of Way. Joshua wanted to place the concrete Pegs as markers on our Lot for the Right of Way but at 1.5M wide from the property line as long as it is marked on our Plan I think that is enough to show the Right of Way should any legality occur in future.

    We have been at it now 3 years and are finally moving forwards, but still have a long way to go. Would I do it again if I knew the problems we would have? HELL NO!! But I am determined to see this through!

    Anyone buying here;
    TRUST NO ONE!
    DEMAND the Title and do your research BEFORE signing anything or paying a single Peso!
    TRUST NO ONE!
    Check your options for Right of Way BEFORE you pay a single Peso or sign anything!
    TRUST NO ONE!
    Engage a GOOD Attorney before you do anything!
    TRUST NO ONE!

    Only now that we have a GOOD Team of Attorney's on our side are we making progress otherwise we would have walked away from and lost half a Million Pesos plus the first part of the Lot we purchased due to the difficulty and nonsense we have endured. WE WERE LUCKY! Now we have a Legally binding Contract signed with the Seller for the remaining portion of the Lot so hopefully all is full steam ahead.

    Oh, and;
    TRUST NO ONE!
     
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    I tell it again: Never buy a lot with the only access is a right of way. Too many traps with rights of way. The owner of the lot with the right of way on it can suddenly block the way. Only secure is if the town/city/barangay is buying the stripe and turns it into a barangay road.
     
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  9. Brian Oinks

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    I am not quiet sure but I think that is what the Attorney's are getting at. With the Common Right of Way existing for more than a Century now, and wanting to make it 6M wide, and having at least 3 or 4 Residents along the way including the local Barangay Captain, I am sure it will be us who will be shouldering that cost of ensuring that the road stays open. Trust me; some astronomical figures are floating around inside my head as to how to make this happen!
     
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    Don't think that just because something has been there for a century that it will continue to be there in the future. The law is only a suggestion in the Philippines. A property owner can block off a right of way anytime they feel like it, then you will have to take them to court....which can take months/years/decades to resolve. I wouldn't buy any property that wasn't directly connected to a public road in the Philippines. One little argument with a neighbor could put you in for a decade long headache.
     
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