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Seed and Plant exchange in begining of March

Discussion in 'Horticulture' started by Dave & Imp, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. redneck

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    Sounds good! I thought I needed to dig deeper than 6 inches, but I think if I buy some bags of potting soil to mix in with my existing dirt it might work! I am going to work on getting the holes ready this week....I need 6?
     
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    the difference between Sun and Shade on seed germination.

    The photo show four Beefsteak tomatoes, all planted on February 28. The two in front got about half the amount of daylight sun from the two in back. There is a significant difference in size and caliber. Keep you seed growing in Sun, and always moist.

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    Ammonium Phosphate/Ammonium sulfate ???

    hey dave, thanks for heading up the gardening group.

    Ammonium Phosphate? i never was good at chemistry (or math, or science or spelling or geography, etc) but do you mean Ammonium sulphate?

    i ask cuz wikipedia says:
    Ammonium phosphate is the salt of ammonium and phosphate. It is a highly unstable compound with the formula (NH4)3PO4. Because of its instability, it is an elusive and of no commercial value.

    Ammonium sulfate (IUPAC-recommended spelling; also ammonium sulphate in British English), (NH4)2SO4, is an inorganic salt with a number of commercial uses. The most common use is as a soil fertilizer. It contains 21% nitrogen as ammonium cations, and 24% sulfur as sulfate anions.

    and i read on the soil and health group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soilandhealth/
    ''Calcium nitrate and ammonium sulphate are both energy beneficial Nitrogen sources ''

    thanks...
    norm : ))~
     
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    I use Ammonium Phosphate because it supplies nitrogen (16% percent) and the Phosphorous (20%) which helps with flowers/fruits and also lowers the pH of the soil. I just know it has worked well in the US and here. I put a fertilizer application in the shape of a heart about a week before the Seed Exchange in the lawn. You could see the heart as an intense green area pretty clearly. It has just gotten more intense green as the following week went by. It was fun thing that I have done previously. It sort of shocks people, but it also makes them believers in fertilizers.

    I have never use Calcium Nitrate, because I know one of the Nitrate fertilizers (may not be Calcium nitrate) was use to blow up the Federal building in the US. I want green growth and flowers but not that explosive of growth. O-| Sulfate of Ammonia is only nitrogen, 20%, in a very cheap form. It does not provide any other nutrients like the Phosphorous. Ammonia Sulfate is primarily sold for lawn purpose because there is no desire for flowers or seed on lawn, and the high nitrogen content keeps the lawn green. For lawn Ammonium Sulfate is good if you do not want to lower the pH also.
     
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    Dill Plants available.. Zucchini out of stock

    Someone was looking for Dill, in fact I remember they said they would kill for it on this thread. With me being enterprising and have some horrible Karaoke singers as neighbors I have nursed some seeds since February 28....I got four to survive, and one looks pretty good.. View attachment 10255 View attachment 10255 . so here is my offer: One plant one dead neighbor (just kidding) but please contact me if you are still interested. I do not favor reading 11 pages of post to figure out who wanted them.

    Point of information: There seems to be no Zucchini seeds presently in town. If some know where there are some. let me know please. If you have plants or seed value them as they have just joined the magical group know as "out of stock" but with a puzzled look you will be told they will be in next month "maybe." Take that answer to Bo's and try to get a cup of coffee with it.

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    Dear Dave,

    The person ready to kill for dill was me and I already purchased some seeds from you on the meet up, thank you!
    In case you still have that karaoke problem pls inform them that the famous Dill Mafia is immortal and we can make them an offer they could not refuse ehe- he;-)

    My zucchini are doing well thanks to you and your lovely helper and about to start blossom. Soil at your place turned out to be mush better than in Valencia . Although the colour of the leaves seems not so intense...I keep them in a shady place mostly but in the morning they have sun light.

    Take care
    Mary
     
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    i still have black beauty seeds and we have one plant with large dark green leaves but it doesn't put out many fruit, maybe too much nitrogen? the plant handles the heat quite well.

    norm : ))~
     
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    Ammonium Phosphate question

    Norm,

    Thanks for your question. I have used Ammonium Phosphate for over 50 years with not problems.. no fingers blown off or extra appendages growing from my body or my children's bodies either.

    I have used it because it is more balanced than Ammonium Sulfate (20-0-0, note - trace minerals as sulfur are not normally given as percentages on commercial fertilizing packaging) because Ammonium Sultate only meets the plants nitrogen need for green growth. Ammounium Phosphate (16-20-0) meets the plants nitrogen need at 16% but also supplies the phosphate (20%) needs for fruits and flowers. Consequently Ammonium Sulfate may be preferred for lawns, while Ammonium Phosphate is better for fruits and flowers.

    Ammounium Phosphate will lower the pH when applied. There was a need to lower the pH where I came from (Southern California).

    Ammonium nitrate is commonly used in agriculture as a high-nitrogen fertilizer, and it has also been used as an oxidizing agent in explosives, including improvised explosive. I believe it was a load of Ammouium nitrate that blow up a Federal Building in the US a few years ago.

    I have no experience with Calcium nitrate although I have heard it is the fertilizer of choice for farmers in the midwest and terrorists because of it availability.

    My philosophy is that if I dig far enough on the internet I can find everything is dangerous and harmful. Fifty years of experience with Ammounium Phosphate and I am still pretty happy.

    They sell Ammounium Phosphate by Ramgo at Nijosa and Handyman Hardware stores for about 125 P per kg. I was selling it at the plant exchange for 80 P from large bags I had repackaged. The only problem I have had for feedback is that a few people have burned plants with excessive applications. It is a strong fertilizer. I even burned an egg plant last week that caused some discoloration of the leaves. I watered the plant heavily to dilute the application (I had mixed the Ammounium Phosphate with water and had extra and trough View attachment 10259 it on the eggplant) and the plant is surviving well, setting fruit now.

    Contrary to Wikipedia Ramgo thinks Ammonium Phosphate has some commercial value because they package and sell it to retailers.
     

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    hmm will this be a ilregualar thing? wouldnt it be nice to see some balanced stuff like 10-10-10..Im a big beliver that the roots get burned from acid soil and the constant assult from insect and animals..While we have tons of mulch and get compost the compost also suffers from too acidic.. I shipped and planted seeds from the usa.and had friends hand carry seed to me when they went back at a seed available time in the USA..BUT. always a but.. the seeds had much more problems here than I ever expected..I was almost greeb thumb level back in the USA..lol
     
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    dave..your ;private area is full and can no longer accept messages.. do some house cleaning..lol

    Ed
     
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