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Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by Notmyrealname, Dec 12, 2020.

  1. Philpots

    Philpots DI Senior Member Restricted Account

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    Do you really believe the Isreali's have invented this It was published last August. If it was going anywhere we would have heard about it by now I think. Oh no, I forgot,, the deep statte doesnt want us to know about it.......
     
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  2. DeputyDawg

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    Several double blind studies in multiple nations have already proven Ivermectin works exceedingly well as a prophylactic in preventing the SARS-CoV-2 virus as well as in lessening the severity of the covid-19 disease should you get it. These studies have been peer reviewed and approved by several leading medical doctors. Anyone interested in seeking truth and not in defending their position that Ivermectin is dangerous and unproven (and there are some like that here on his forum) then I would be happy to send them the links to these studies... but more than likely this would be a total waste of time... because in order to save face.... they will find fault with these double-blind studies and dismiss them as folly... thus would be a total waste of my time and theirs... because whe na person has an agenda (to appear always correct at all costs) then why waste your time with a person like that. BTW... googling Ivermectin will lead to a long list of negative reviews of this drug... why? Well think about it... big pharma who has a motive to not allow a drug as inexpensive as Ivermectin to get positive news coverage in the mainstream group think news media because doing so would cost them billions in profits for their high priced alternatives which have been shown in multiple studies to less effective than Ivermectin. A story like this should be front page news but has been silenced by the WHO and big pharama and will most certainly be quickly silenced here by the card carrying members of group think on this forum as well. So if you are interested in truth PM me and I will send you the studies. But if you are people like notmyrealname or others who proud members of his mutual admiration society... don't waste your time messaging me because you have proven you have no interest in truth... only an interest in defending your position... which is that you are always right.
     
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  3. Rye83

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    Instead of all this nonsense about people discrediting the studies, guessing the motivations of others and going on about big pharma conspiracy theories why not just post the link and let the study speak for itself?
     
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  4. Astralweeks

    Astralweeks DI Junior Member

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    all negative speak and nothing usefull
     
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    Notmyrealname

    Notmyrealname DI Forum Luminary Highly Rated Poster Showcase Reviewer

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    I agree - there are many studies on many drugs and other treatments for Covid-19. Some are rubbish and some may prove to be useful - this is no different from the way many useful drugs are discovered, by a process of testing some likely candidates and some unlikely ones and getting a few surprises.

    I have not seen anyone anywhere on this Forum rubbish Ivermectin - like most drugs it has some good effects and some unpleasant ones.

    It would be up to an individual to try to persuade a doctor to administer a drug the patient thinks will help him (I have Baricitinib on the radar) and 'the proof will be (in part) in the pudding'. It makes you your own guinea pig but may be a risk worth taking.

    Better to think that way than to write a diatribe on what others will think, inaccurately-based on absence of truth and absence of information. But then, despots usually kill off those with knowledge as it seems to frighten them.
     
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  6. Toto

    Toto DI Senior Member

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    Rhayan Gatbonton Melendres
    is [​IMG]feeling optimistic in
    Candaba, Pampanga
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    YteSsteprddatgyam SmratSor 5in:rsdof56sr gecitAsMdSg ·
    Wow. I hope this is correct. Look at the prices of Pfizer, Moderna, and Astrazeneca Covid vaccines. Willing to wait and willing to pay kami.
    Now, compare it with the Chinese vaccine, Sinovac? Ohh sinong niloloko nila nyan? Ang mahal na tapos hindi pa pasado for safety ang Chinese vaccine at nirerecall na sya sa ilang bansa sa South America (fact check it).
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  7. Toto

    Toto DI Senior Member

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    OK. I'll just skip posting here entirely and just read. Why not post a link if you looked it up? Perhaps you misunderstood the futuristic aspect of the post? And my reference to defraying the development cost? I think the biggest problem is the cost - over time - to develop one that is useful and not as large as a tank. And... we still need better eyes.
     
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    Latin America’s embrace of an unproven COVID treatment is hindering drug trials
    Unchecked ivermectin use in the region is making it difficult to test the anti-parasite drug’s effectiveness against the coronavirus.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02958-2
     
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    Toto DI Senior Member

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    Came right up, first page.

    Wenderow tells NoCamels the multi-center study is now complete and the company has a working vocal biomarker for COVID-19 currently in use in a number of clinical validation studies. There are also “commercial implementation projects with more to come,” he indicated.

    SEE ALSO: Mayo Clinic To Implement Diagnostic Robotics’ AI Patient Triage, Prediction System

    Following the establishment of the clinical benefits of voice analysis for patient screening throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, the collaboration with the Mayo Clinic “presents an opportunity for us to continue broadening our research, beginning with pulmonary hypertension,” Wenderow said in a company statement.
    https://nocamels.com/2020/11/israel-vocalis-mayo-clinic-voice-test/
     
  10. SkipJack

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    It looks like the Chinese are ripping people off.

    Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are the new mRNA type. These cost more to manufacture than traditional vaccines like Astrazeneca. Astrazeneca is an Adenovirus-based vaccine.

    The Sinovac vaccine named CoronaVac is an inactivated vaccine, which works by using killed viral particles to expose the body's immune system to the virus without risking a serious disease response.

    Why is the Sinovac vaccine so expensive when it is using old technology?

    Even Cambodia knows to steer clear of the Chinese vaccine:
    https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/C...ina-s-Sinovac-vaccine-in-favor-of-COVAX-shots
     
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