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So there is no justice for expats in the philippines?

Discussion in 'Expat Section' started by syrkyn, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. Knowdafish

    Knowdafish DI Forum Luminary

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    I'm going to borrow that one! hehe
     
  2. nice_sherwood

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    Its not only foreigners even filipinos get ripped off its a matter of knowing who to trust, better not to trust anybody and make good connections then youll live peacefully.

    theres always something can get done, dont trust anybody and if u have a wife or gf let her take care of the dramas for you then itll be easier on your side thats if you trust her :-)
     
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    Fully agree with the above statement. My asawa and I (married for almost 25 yrs!) live happily in Bacong. We found a nice house to our liking, spend quite a bit of money on the garden (our choice) and do our shopping in Robinsons, Lee's, roadside stalls or Bacong market as we see fit. Never been ripped off (not even an attempt too) and happy as a lark being able to spend my retirement money so that other people benefit. I have 'used' the muscle of my neighbour to build the decking behind the house and to build the planter boxes, but we have paid him for his services, much to his and our staisfaction.
    Vicmico
     
  4. nice_sherwood

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    Good for you :-). When we were building our place we got the local neigbours to work for the construction of our house, we fed them aside from the good wage and that kept them happy. We never had any problems in terms of stealing or people coming to rip you off as a matter of fact they are returning the kindness by keeping a look out of our place when were not there.

    we've been ripped off a couple times but thats withmy relatives,( paid for my cousins school, had my uncle's looked after one of ohr investments and no income returned!) embarassing as it may sound but we have learnt that they will prey onyou if you let them. Now we have learnt to show them that enough is enough so we decided to move to duma and left them all there. At the end of the day, its their loss theyll be no more crying wolf as money doesnt grow on trees.
     
  5. Last Call

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    Sorry to hear about that Nice. Had a bit of the same experience with my wife's family. Put her youngest brother through college "so he could support the family." He had gotten a pretty good job with Colgate Palmolive in Quezon City. They needed a little help for the rent. Been paying their rent for the past couple of years. When we dropped by a few months ago they had all quit working and owed the land lady 100K pesos, which they had told her I would pay.

    I had just finished reading "The Metamorphosis" by Kafka on the plane. It is a strange story, but it left me feeling that I was doing them a great disservice by supporting them. It was keeping them from achieving on their own.

    So now they are on their own. I paid their land lady with the agreement that she would not loan them even 1 peso ever again. Told them that they could not contact my wife and I until they all had jobs and could show receipts. Both her brothers are working now and are afraid to ask for money, at least for a little while.

    I have many friends in the Philippines, who are poorer than my wife's family and they never ask for money.
     
  6. nice_sherwood

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    i wish it'll be that easy on my part to just stop helping especially to my family, if my dad is still alive then that's a different story because he never had problems financially on raising us but after he was murdered and my mum had a severe stroke and our family business (my parents are contractors in a shipping industry called tsuneishi) went down the drain and i was left with my younger siblings to look after then for many years we've been trying to figure out who killed my dad (he was a great guy, no enemies, love to make friends though he was quite a disciplinarian to us and to his employees, dont drink or smoke) then we just found out its my mother's brother who we sacked from being the company's manager after we caught him stealing money and what makes it even worse is, we have been feeding him and his family! Honestly thats alot to take, poignant revelations... We barred his entire family and he still denied the he did it.

    I still have cousins that i pay for their college but i only choose the ones im sure that will help their family when they finish and i have told them i am not expecting for anything in return from them but what i would like them to do is do the same thing as what i did to them. I support them to finish college because thats the smart way for them to get a decent job and be able to help their own family because not all the time i can cater everyones needs,im probably one of the luckiest wives whose got an understanding husband but his patience is running out and i cant blame him, me myself is feeling sick of what has happened in our lives!, at least despite that i have barred some relatives the ones that ripped us off none of my family ever blamed me for doing so. They totally understand and after that they never ask for any help unless i offer!

    Abit the same as what happened to you except where all the investments that we have (apartmnts) he took all the rents and run off with the tenants deposits as well and because there was no internet banking back them days in philippines we didnt know until i went and check on our bank account!
     
  7. nice_sherwood

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    And guess what? Brought him to the barangay captain but he didnt show up, our attorney said we can file a case against him but that'll take years to get the justice that we deserve this is only for all the money that he ran off excluding my dad's murder case which until now is not solved because the gunman he hired is already dead too, someone must have killed him so he cant confess!

    So if you think theres no justice for foreigners here, trust me.... Its for everyone that comes and live here! But we just take the good from the bad and learn from experience and that experience tells me never again.
     
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    Wow! Even more sorry to hear about the murder of your father. Guess I should be happy that my wife's relatives haven't started killing each other. Though it has come close. Once in Leyte I had to take bola's away from my father-in-law and his brother, as they fought over a caraboa that I had purchased.
     
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    If you help one you must help the rest because one will get jealous and will do stupid things! Ive had enough of it now were living peacefully in dumaguete, we all changed numbers and we didnt tell them where we live.
     
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    I read these stories and thought of 2 sayings.
    Killing someone with kindness. As in always giving money but what will they do when the money is runs out? Better to go to college or learn a trade to support your family.
    There is always someone in the world who has it harder than you. I saw in another thread someone asked if the person was a "tourist" or of Filipino descent. Unfortunately that is how many see someone that is not Filipino. I am a permanent resident of this country not a tourist and my family is happy here. We spend a lot of money in the local economy every month with purchased goods and salaries of our workers and still we are second class citizens. I just need to remind myself sometimes even if we are treated as a little less we are still living a good life.
    I really like to read the different posts because there are so many different experiences.
     
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