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Thank God we haven't any human garbage like this here...

Discussion in 'Expat Section' started by barryrio, Apr 25, 2020.

  1. Happy Camper

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    When I was living in Bacolod, there was a report of a person on a ledge, groping through an open window trying to steal something. The owner was sitting there watching, got up and went and slammed the window on the person's arm and then called the police.

    A British friend of mine said if the owner did that in the UK they would be charged. I was amazed. But those kind of laws against the citizens protecting their property might have something to do with the boldness now.
     
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    MikeP64 DI Forum Adept Veteran Marines

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    I think you overlooked parenting, or the lack of.
     
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    I think that's a bit deep an analysis of the specific issue here. Young people in the UK have little respect for anything and as they pass through the period where they feel invulnerable, this leads to this kind of anti-social behaviour in some (not all). That's why I draw the comparison with young people here, and there are similar traits in other countries. I've been in and out (before being permanently in) the Philippines for some years and I can't recall seeing much graffiti, even in Manila. In the UK, graffiti, shattered infrastructure such as bus shelters and litter are an issue ans mainly perpetrated by young people lacking respect or conscience. Parenting is a big issue as you point out. I could have strayed close towards doing some of the anti-social things when a young boy (not violence), but fear of what my dad would have done if I did helped to keep me in check, along with my parents' values. That's very lacking in many UK families now.
     
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    Lol get your prescription checked. There is graffiti and gang signs tagged on almost every single wall in Manila.
     
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    I'm not on a prescription, thanks. I'm talking generally. In Manila and maybe other big cities, but in the UK the problem exists everywhere. Do you see that in Dumaguete?
     
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    Quite correct. In fact the ousted former Prime Minister Teresa May was one of the worst Home Secretary's in a long time IMHO and personally responsible for the cuts in manpower and the subsequent results of those policies that we see today.
     
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    As someone who was born not far from Liverpool city centre, I try to avoid going into it at nightime.
    I reside now, thank goodness, on the opposite side of the River Mersey with a Commercial toil tunnel between. However such is the behaviour at nightime that I dont venture out in nearby Birkenhead neither. This sort of behaviour towards an Elderly person is not common thank God, the Cities of UK tend to be thrown open to nightime revellers and that is when the Policeforce are most stretched, whether thats because of Alcohol or Drug misuse I'm not sure. It is generally quite safe to walk round during daytime hours, but there is always the exceptions. Would I feel safer in London? certainly not!
    There is what I call a lost Generation of young people in UK, these are the types who would hit their own parents, have no respect for teachers ( if they chose to go to school ) no respect for Police or any part of decent society, they are literally rebels without a cause. I would send them to the Boot Camps which would make or break them.
    As my Father use to say......give them the birch or the cat of nine tails ( Nobody use to go back twice for a taste of it in the Isle of Man, till it was banned )
     
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    Hi John! I actually lived in Wallasey during most of my time in Merpol. When I joined in '78 Wallasey used to put out a shift averaging 15 -18 officers on nights, with three single manned beat cars and two double manned incident cars. The rest were foot officers. Birkenhead night shifts were a little larger. Then you had at least four officers and cars covering Moreton, Hoylake and Bebington respectively etc. Currently there are often only 2 or possibly three vehicles covering all that area and it is not unheard of for a vehicle in Wallasey to be dispatched single manned to the far reaches of Heswall. That is what the cuts have translated into. No wonder things are the way they are now. My sympathies lie with the thin blue line that simply cannot cope with the current workload. A sad situation and the public are the ones that suffer.
     
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    I suspect with all the security cameras in your country it takes far fewer patrols to cover the same amount of territory. Everyone here is daily how much worse it is these days, anyone have any statistics?
     
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    I'm British and if I think of a dozen or so British people I'm close to (brother, best friends, cousins, ex gfs), we all have a similar profile: in our 40s, in good health, university educated, hard working with good careers, reasonably well-off, never claimed any benefits, law abiding, childless, respectful.

    If we were in the UK we would be paying a lot of taxes, spending well to put money back into the economy, not claiming benefits, hardly ever using free resources like health care and education for kids. Basically, the kind of people that are useful to society and the economy.

    BUT, what we also all have in common is that all bar one of us left UK the years ago with no intention of returning. Although there are a number of reasons for this, the primary reason for us all deciding to leave was the regression in society and moral values there, increased crime and aggravation etc. It's really quite sad and rather depressing this is happening. I'm not sure if it's happening to the same extent in other "developed" countries, but I suspect it probably is.......
     
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