Best Posts in Thread: Tricycle Drivers Strike Starting Monday...Things to Consider

Philpots · Jun 14, 2020

shakey said: ↑

This is the news link describing Monday's Strike and the get tough rule against back riders on motorcyles.

Things to consider about tricycle drivers:

1. Most of the drivers do not own the tricycle they drive but rent them on a day by day basis for P160 to P200. Someone else owns the tricycle and city franchise.

2. Gasoline and minor repairs like flats are paid by the renter (driver)

3. Each city licences tricycles and multicabs as a franchise going from terminal to terminal picking up and setting down along a route. A route is basically from a city market to city market with a terminal on either end vs versa. Terminal fees are paid for by the driver. Enforced Social distancing by the terminals restricts the number of riders allowed while fuel costs and terminal fees remain the same.

4. Roaming tricycles while still offering express service are limited to one passenger. A Dumaguete licensed roaming tricycle can pickup a passenger in Dumaguete and deliver their passenger to Bacong or Sibulan legally but not pickup another passenger until they return to the Dumaguete city limits. Fares are negotiable for roaming tricycles.

5. Motorcycles are the mode of FAMILY transportation and prohibiting backriders just enforces stay at home and hurts dine-in and shopping for food or medicine.

What can the privileged few do to help or neighbors?

shakey aka John
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On the topic one passenger per trike, why on earth would the authorities come up with that one where nothing seems to being issued re the Easyrides and the way they pack them in. Seems nonsensical to me.

Rye83 · Jul 1, 2020

SkipJack said: ↑

I agree except that I do not want to see any of these 3 wheel contraptions going 80 kph.
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Agree. Those things are death traps and extremely unstable at even moderate speeds. One sharp turn and those things will go rolling. You can have a safe/stable 3 wheeled vehicle but you need to put the two wheels in the front.

SkipJack · Jun 30, 2020

NYC said: ↑

Trikes could be fairly eaily replaced with better vehicles for the job. Bajaj, Piaggio, TVS King, even Rusi offer three-wheeled tuk-tuks that are less than 200K pesos to purchase new and easily cruise along with the traffic speeds in Dumaguete (80 kph on the rare level surfaces.) Rusi has an extended version with a second back seat. They are narrower than a Multicab and, since they are factory-designed (Bajaj has manufactured them since 1960) as a three-wheeled vehicle, are much safer (braking on all three wheels, for instance.) Of course, it's still an expense to purchase one, but a city with some vision would work out a way to transition over a few years. Tangub City on Mindanao uses tuk-tuks as their taxis with great success (in case anyone out there wants to firehose the idea just to be contrary.)
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I agree except that I do not want to see any of these 3 wheel contraptions going 80 kph. That is too fast. I think the highest speed limit in the city of Dumaguete is 50 kph. The new diversion road actually has speed limit signs and solar center line lights. The highway out past town has a 80 kph speed limit.

Someone needs to start making the bodies here in Negros and purchase the engines, brakes etc as parts. This way there would be substantial local content.

Shawn44 · Jun 16, 2020

Ok.. it is true... most drivers will not risk or chance it. I had my neighbor do my shopping today . I paid her fare ....she needed to go shopping also. ONLY she was allowed in the trike and yes ..as we all know my pass on tuesday Thursday saturday gave ber access to the big markets

eskirvin · Jun 16, 2020

A huge market for the tricycle that isn't solved by any other method is large scale purchasing. No bus, on any real schedule, is going to take you, your 3 pieces of matched luggage, and your husband with his luggage to the airport, nor are they going to pick up a single passenger carrying building supplies for the home they're building. Tricycles are awesome and needed, but should never be on the highway. The tricycle should take you to the bus stop for those types of journeys.

Every area I've seen has duplicated services on some scale, so going to Dumaguete from Basay for large amounts of building materials isn't something that should be happening. Now is the PERFECT time to enforce the rule of not having tricycles on the highway. Stop them at the COVID checkpoint, ask them and the passengers where their embarkation point was, if anyone disagrees, 500php fine or confiscation of the tricycle, to be returned a week later. No new law, just like helmets, just enforce it. If you can't do it now, you never will. Hell, they can even loan the tricycle to another driver in the town it is confiscated in for a half price rental for a week.

Rye83 · Jun 16, 2020

Always a Poppy said: ↑

Rye, I think your view on what is walkable is, in my opinion one generally forthcoming from younger and fitter people. I've worked all of my life in public transport and I know what an emotive issue it is to ask customers to have to walk even a couple of hundred meters when a route is changed. The elderly and inform come out in their droves in such cases to complain, much of it totally exaggerated, but expecting those groups, young children and people laden down with their weekly shop to walk 2 kms is a bit 'pie in the sky'. Will never happen. We tend to measure what is reasonable walking distance by our own capability. I know, I've done it.

Not sure what transportation system it is that you envisage, but on a practical side, if it's radical and expensive, you might see it, but I certainly won't. In the meantime, trikes are here for the foreseeable I suspect.
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Bus routes with dedicated stations. No pick-up between stops. Many cities worldwide have successfully implemented a functional public transport system with the elderly, the disabled and children all being able to utilize it. Dumaguete is small and could easily have a system that required minimal walking between the stop and your home. Any areas (long side streets could be serviced by trikes). Public transport should be ran by the city and not private individuals it companies. Any jobs lost would be gained by the required work force needed to maintain such a system. Yeah, people would have to move from one unskilled job to another unskilled job but hey, if you don't like it think about your future and acquire a skill. Such a system is decades in to the future but I think it will eventually come.

As for walking, yeah, the disabled and elderly would still have those alternate transportation options. Humans are very capable of walking. If you are young and not disabled (which most of the population is here) you have few excuses for not being able to walk a kilometer or two in 20-30 minutes. The city definitely needs better sidewalks and shade (forbid property owners from needlessly cutting down trees) but it is not that big of a deterrent.

danbandanna · Jun 15, 2020

danbandanna · Jun 15, 2020

I did not think for one minute that my observation would change a d*mn thing but been here long enough to see that some change could help... might say that if that post is of no interest then you might move on without commenting on something you profess not to care about
"shall we" ?

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