Discussion in 'Dumaguete City' started by shakey, Jun 14, 2020.
What about other areas like sibulin ect. ? Is it just Dumaguete?
Wrong. Just like in first world societies buses drop you near your destination on designated routes and then you can walk. This would eliminate the need for so many tricycles and would serve the public better. I understand a trike is easiest for the rider but it is the main cause of traffic congestion. Always slow and very erratic.
This is such a confrontational and trashy way to start a message. Really makes people want to engage in conversation.
Trikes could be fairly eaily replaced with better vehicles for the job. Bajaj, Piaggio, TVS King, even Rusi offer three-wheeled tuk-tuks that are less than 200K pesos to purchase new and easily cruise along with the traffic speeds in Dumaguete (80 kph on the rare level surfaces.) Rusi has an extended version with a second back seat. They are narrower than a Multicab and, since they are factory-designed (Bajaj has manufactured them since 1960) as a three-wheeled vehicle, are much safer (braking on all three wheels, for instance.) Of course, it's still an expense to purchase one, but a city with some vision would work out a way to transition over a few years. Tangub City on Mindanao uses tuk-tuks as their taxis with great success (in case anyone out there wants to firehose the idea just to be contrary.)
I agree except that I do not want to see any of these 3 wheel contraptions going 80 kph. That is too fast. I think the highest speed limit in the city of Dumaguete is 50 kph. The new diversion road actually has speed limit signs and solar center line lights. The highway out past town has a 80 kph speed limit.
Someone needs to start making the bodies here in Negros and purchase the engines, brakes etc as parts. This way there would be substantial local content.
Using the unemployed to make things instead of importing them is what I thought low-wage economies did best - but here, much tat is still imported.
Agree. Those things are death traps and extremely unstable at even moderate speeds. One sharp turn and those things will go rolling. You can have a safe/stable 3 wheeled vehicle but you need to put the two wheels in the front.
They're actually quite stable at 80 kph. But the point is not to run them around town at 80, but that they are easily capable of keeping up with the flow of automobile traffic which is the main source of complaint about tricycles.
When going in a straight line, yeah, they will continue going straight without incident but with their narrow rear wheel base, relatively long and stiff frame and high center of gravity they are primed for rollovers when turning at even modest speeds. Dangerous enough when their is only room for a driver, like those old ATVs... then you throw 4 to 15 people and cargo on the roof (because they will be overloaded in the Philippines) raising the center of gravity even further you will have massive causalities. There is a reason why 3 wheel ATVs (with the two wheels in the rear) were banned in the US in the 80s. They are not safe in the slightest bit and it is the reason why the ones currently on the road here are generally putting around at well below 40kph.
You forgot the "sidecar wabull" factor? You can see the "sidecar wabull" in most petty cab. When I put the side car on my EN 125 the sidecar wabull was really bad at 30 KPH and completely out of control at 35 KPH. Had to put a steering dampener on it. The dampener caused very stiff steering.
Big mistake putting that sidecar on that bike. Next time you in a petty cab watch the handle bars and you will see the wabull even at very low speeds. In other words no steering dampener, no speed above 25 or 30 KPH.
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