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  1. Rye83

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    My comments about fueling up the helicopter with the 50cal was a bit of hyperbole, it is completely unnecessary and overkill for 10-15 guys holed up in a hand full of houses. The fact that they dropped bombs and/or shot rockets from those helicopters leads me to believe that there were quite a bit more than 10 retards on a small kidnapping mission. It sounds like they brought nearly a company of Abu Sayyaf troops. (There were also reports of Abu Sayyaf's second in command being among the group as well.) They had/have something huge planned. If they would had made it to a tourist destination, such as Panglao, they would have slaughtered every single tourist staying in the area.

    If I were a tourist on Bohol I would quickly be heading to the nearest ferry terminal (or more likely hiring a private boat to avoid public/crowded places where tourists gather) to get me to Negros or Cebu. The military and police have absolutely no idea at this point how many ASG extremists are on Bohol. A secondary group could have landed on another part of the island for all anyone knows (Bohol is a big island). If they have bullets "as big as corn ears" they are likely packing around some M2 Brownings. You cannot hide or take cover from those in an urban/resort environment, they shoot through 12 inches of SOLID concrete and will chop down any tree that grows in the Philippines in short order.
     
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    There is warnings in Bohol about use airport and ferry terminals. Panglao is a small island, around 20 km long, connected to Tagbilaran/Bohol with 2 small bridges, easy to control. Waterside should not be that difficult to monitor, in mind the size of Panglao island. They have a well educated swat team to. Of course problem is, when the abus people fit in with the normal population
     
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    That is where I would be no good at 'War' at all, I think I would be far too trigger happy and ask questions later, maybe too much later... :unsure:
     
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    Highlighted the important part there. What should have happened was for the President to take the US intelligence seriously and had the Coast Guard, Army, Air Force and Police patrolling the water, air and beaches. That didn't happen, so I have little faith that what should be easy and straight forward will be done by the Philippine government/military.

    The German recently beheaded was held on a rather small island too. Much the same could be said about what "should" have happened.
    "Jolo Island is a small island, around 60 km long, connected to no other island by bridges, easy to control. Waterside should not be that difficult to monitor and hunt down these jungle-monkeys, in mind the size of Jolo Island. They have a well educated swat team too. Of course problem is, when the abus people fit in with the normal population."

    Of course, with today's technology no inbred jungle-monkeys should be able to hide out in the jungle...especially on an island so small.

    Apache


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    Squashing them like the cockroaches they are.

    That's what training is for.
     
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    I think I have watched EVERY single video on Youtube of the night vision Gunships blowing them away, AWESOME STUFF!! :thumbsup:
     
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    Update:

    Easter terror plans come to a halt after death of militant


    LAHAD DATU: Muamar Askali, the murderous militant who was the face of the Abu Sayyaf group (ASG) in videos making ransom demands and beheadings of kidnap victims, has been shot dead.

    Askali, more famously known as Abu Rami, was high on the Malaysian and Philippine security forces’ wanted list and was one of the few English-speaking Abu Sayyaf leaders.

    A photograph of a dead Abu Rami, with his face covered in blood and a flag of the Islamic State (IS) pinned on his military fatigue shirt, was provided to The Star as confirmation of his death.

    It is learnt that he and his gang were planning attacks or raids on Easter Sunday on tourist spots in Cebu when five of them were shot dead.
    Abu Rami was seen in the Nov 17, 2015, beheading video of Sarawakian Bernard Then, who was kidnapped from the Ocean King Seafood Restaurant in Sandakan in May 2015.

    He was also among the last of the remaining Abu Sayyaf sub-commanders involved in kidnap-for-ransom activities of foreigners.

    “The death of the ASG leader does not end our grief. We pray, especially during this season of Lent in our Christian calendar, that God will show him mercy. And we hope our Government will continue to step up efforts to secure our shores,” said Christopher Then, Bernard’s brother.

    Abu Rami was also linked to the IS group led by Isnilon Hapilon who was pushing for the setting up of a South-East Asian caliphate based in southern Philippines.

    He was behind several kidnappings including a 2015 raid on the southern Philippine island resort of Samal in which four tourists – two Canadians, a Norwegian and a Filipina – were snatched. The two Canadian men were beheaded last year after their families and government failed to pay ransom.

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    End of the road: Wanted militant Askali (right) was killed near this farm house in Inabanga town, Bohol province, central Philippines, after it was hit by helicopter gunships. He had gone there from his headquarters in Jolo. — AFP

    A former hostage has described Abu Rami, who was in his late 20s, as a “confused individual”.

    “I saw him as a person with a confused personality,” said Jordanian journalist Baker Atyani, who was held hostage by the Abu Sayyaf faction led by the Sawadjan family of which Abu Rami was a member.

    Baker, kidnapped while on assignment in Jolo on June 12, 2012 and held hostage for 18 months, said Abu Rami shuffled between the Moro National Islamic Front (MNLF) faction led by his uncle Qaed in Indanaan, Jolo island, and the Abu Sayyaf supreme leader (Emir) Radulan Sahiron, who is also known as the one-armed commander.

    Baker, now based in Dubai, said that Abu Rami then moved to another sub group headed by Kahal, also known as Ama’a Ma’aas, when he married Kahal’s daughter.

    Abu Rami took over as commander from his father-in-law who was killed last year and teamed up with the Sawadjan family who were involved in several resort kidnappings in Sabah waters.

    He was among five gunmen killed in a bloody gunbattle in Bohol in central Philippines on Tuesday and his death is seen as a big blow to Abu Sayyaf based in Jolo island.

    Western Mindanao Command (Westmincom) Lt-Gen Carlito Galvez said: “The death of Askali has a big impact. The damage will be felt when it comes to the group’s projection of power outside Sulu. He was involved in attacks against foreigners. His capability to reach Bohol showed his aggressiveness.”

    Abu Rami and a group of about 60 gunmen were believed to have slipped out of Jolo following intensive military operations and headed up to central Philippines’ Visaya Islands, and had been hiding out there since Monday while preparing to strike at tourist destinations during this weekend’s Easter holiday break.

    However, they were spotted by villagers and the Philippines security forces using helicopter gunships bombarded the village, killing five Abu Sayyaf gunmen including Abu Rami. The security forces lost three soldiers and a policemen in the early Tuesday gunbattle.

    The Philippines security forces are now on the hunt for the remnants of the militants who are now said to be “running for their lives”.

    Just days before the raid, the US and Australian governments had warned their citizens about potential “terrorist” kidnappings on Bohol and neighbouring Cebu, also a major tourist destination.

    Authorities said some 100 residents fled the fighting on Bohol.

    However, hoteliers and visitors there told AFP that the incident has not affected tourist traffic although there was increased police security.

    Bohol bills itself as a tropical paradise sought after by foreign tourists who go there to swim with docile whale sharks, travel its rivers on boat cruises, and lounge on unspoiled beaches.


    Abu Rami’s death likely to stifle Abu Sayyaf group
    LAHAD DATU: The killing of the notorious Abu Rami Muamar Askali @Abu Rami will likely hinder whatever plans the Abu Sayyaf group might have been hatching in Sabah waters, according to Eastern Sabah Security Command (Esscom).

    Their kidnap-for-ransom operations could be temporarily halted, Esscom Commander Datuk Wan Abdul Bari Wan Abdul Khalid said.

    “We cannot be too happy because when one (Abu Sayyaf leader) is gone, another person will be ready to take over. We have to be careful on our side,” Abdul Bari said.

    He added that a proper verification of the killing of Abu Rami was required and Esscom had yet to receive confirmation from the Philippines side.

    “If Abu Rami has been killed, it will be definitely be good for our side,” he added.

    Abu Rami was among 21 most wanted Abu Sayyaf gunmen involved in more than a dozen cross-border kidnappings since the Pom Pom resort attack in 2013.

    So far, the five Muktadil brothers, as well as senior Abu Sayyaf leaders such as Idang Susukan Apo Mike @Majan Sahidjuan, Marajan Asiri, Alden Bagadi are among those killed or arrested.

    Abu Rami and another notorious Abu Sayyaf leader Alhabsy Misaya, among the last few known gunmen involved in Sabah kidnappings, had been on the run since President Rodrigo Duterte ordered an all-out military offensive to wipe out the Abu Sayyaf in Jolo and Basilan in southern Philippines.

    Alhabsy is believed to be in hiding in one of the many islands in the Sulu Sea.

    Malaysian intelligence officers are monitoring the latest military offensive and keeping Sabah’s borders under tight scrutiny.
    ..........................Read more at Easter terror plans come to a halt after death of militant - Nation | The Star Online

    Abu Rami’s death likely to stifle Abu Sayyaf group - Nation | The Star Online
     
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    Well that was an incredible waste of time and bandwidth. No doubt Hollywood will be calling for rights on this video for their documentary on "Telephone Wires."
     
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    Well, given Du30's M.O. with the war on drugs, I think your method would be found perfectly suitable here. In fact, I'm surprised Du30 hasn't pushed in that direction with the Muslim radical movements.
     
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    There were three choppers that flew past San Miguel at three p.m. and moving pretty fast. They were headed south towards Siaton.
    I don't think it's all over, at least not yet. They looked like Hueys but not nearly as noisy.
     
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