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That has nothing to do with any Virus, it is and has been for a long time illegal to drive in Flip Flops or open toed Sandals it is a safety thing in Driving

 

They're catching it from their relatives that are happy to see them. They're catching it from "frontliners" that sideline as caregivers.
They're catching it from places they are going to catch it from, no matter what.
What can be done? Warn the public that their "Nana" or "Papa" could die from their visit, that seniors are at the highest risk of death from everything in life, and then let the people decide. This is essentially a new "seat belt" law where only the person wearing the seat belt is affected. People choose how they are going to die everyday and this COVID situation should be no different.

 

For what it is worth, Korea did not and has not locked down. I was there for work and caught one of the last PAL flights out. People were sit down eating in restaurants and public transport and shops were operating.

What was interesting was that after downloading an app your mobile phone you received updates on the movement of positive testing people as well as assurances that the places they had visited, mostly clinics and pharmacies, had been disinfected.

In my opinion and that is all it is, an opinion, the Philippines, Europe and USA would never be able to follow the Korean method for either cultural or economic reasons. I must also admit I felt safer there than here even though they did not carry out the draconian measures that we are living under now in Luzon. There is a lot of blind panic among both local and expat community here.

 

My cousin, a nurse in the state of Georgia, agrees, and takes it one step further to lighten the burden on the health care industry. She circulates this "wallet treatment card" :

 

Denying the ability to live so that someone doesn't die. A whole new brand of stupid.

 

“Taiwan today announced no new cases of coronavirus, meaning the country has gone 28 days without reporting a single local transmission.”

...and never a lockdown.


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@djfinn6230 I am sorry for the misunderstanding. I was not referring to you personally when I stated: "We can only assume that people are too stupid to search the Internet, read and learn from other peoples mistakes."

I was referring to the leaders of countries that are currently under lockdown (UK and USA). From past experiences, Taiwan and South Korea have learned how to contain an outbreak . For example Taiwan has implemented 124 measures to keep the virus from going out of control and requiring a lockdown. As a result Taiwan had less than 300 active cases (400 total). With these measures, they were able to keep the economy going. Meanwhile things got out of control in the US and UK to the point that they had to lockdown and stop their economies at horrific costs.

My comment was referring to the leadership of the UK and the USA (not you) who are causing extensive damage to their economies by locking them down instead of having leaned from the Taiwanese and South Korean historical experiences. The leadership of the US and UK would have been much better off had they read about and learned how the Taiwainese and South Koreans learned from previous experiences.

So let me rephrase my comment: We can only assume that people (US and UK leadership) are too stupid to search the Internet, read and learn from other peoples mistakes.

I am sorry if a misunderstanding led you to taking this personally. I agree with you in that they should have not had to lockdown.

Taiwan
https://www.dw.com/en/taiwan-coronavirus/a-52724523

South Korea
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...ovid-19-exceptionalism/ar-BB13GoFt?li=BBnbfcL

 

On the issue of Taiwan, I wrote a long piece (here somewhere) where I quoted some of the 124 measures they took to control the virus.

The principal ones were:

* VERY FAST actions
* Closing down flights inwards before other countries
* Mandatory face mask use combined with social distancing - with heavy fines for not doing so
* A total ban on face mask exports and ramping up production into the millions per day
* 99% health coverage for citizens - meaning they were not afraid to attend hospital

So, have an obedient society (not necessarily the same as repressed) and a smart government and you get results.

I compare this with the UK, still allowing people to enter the country without being checked and without being quarantined but SAYING they WILL start this AT THE END OF MAY. FFS - they've had MONTHS to do this and if they already know it is necessary (essential actually) then do it NOW.