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Discussion in 'Off-Topic Forum' started by Plainspoken, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. Plainspoken

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    What gets me is I'm waiting while the unprepared idiots ask some really stupid questions. Some about things that are not even related to their problem. Like asking a bunch of "what if" questions that will never come into play. Due diligence? What's that? You are right. They just show up. Like they just got off the plane from Mars and want the problems taken care of.
     
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    But I never tried to say “why” the DMV’s are slow, just that they are slow. If I am responsible to provide a government service I should be responsible to my employer, the people of the State. If other people who may be citizens, but often are not, come in unprepared due to where their intelligence falls on the bell curve, it is my responsibility to isolate these people from from the good “customers” who are simply trying to legally accomplice one of life’s necessities (driving is not a voluntary hobby). Government employees tend not to do this, they just have you wait your turn and mix your business with that of the imbeciles. I guess all countries’ govt bureaucracies are like that. Private companies deal with dumbass customers by handling them over to other people who can pull them away from the people who know the system.


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    In California, I'd say that the process is a big part of the problem at the DMV. It's not sized to deal with the amount of people that want to do business there. The DMV should motivate/incentivize people to do their business via mail if possible. The people working there do seem disinterested, but if every time you look up from you desk all you see is a sea of people (some prepared, some not), it's hard to stay engaged. It's a bit like being an assembly line worker for an automobile manufacturer.
     
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    The DMV I was at (in Virginia) was trying to sort out the idiots. They had an "I'm completely clueless" line for people who weren't sure what they needed.....and it was a LONG line. They also had a line to verify you had all your paperwork. If you had the proper paperwork they quickly gave you a number, if you didn't you quickly went to the back of the clueless line. (That didn't stop people from bringing additional issues up at the service desk though.) Serves them right, I'm sure 99% of the questions could have been answered online.

    What else are they supposed to do? You can't fix stupid.

    What is this "mail" thing you speak of?

    Joking aside, I haven't been in a DMV for a license or registration related service in a VERY long time (I honestly can't remember the last time). I renew my license on the Texas DMV website and renew my registration every year on the Indiana BMV website. Pay online and they mail you your license/registration (Texas will mail the license out of state). Simple. Texas and Indiana even offer discounts if you do it online. The Virginia branch I went to last year had signs all over the windows advertising their website. It was really hard to miss.

    If someone is too stupid to figure out how to use DMV websites then there is little chance they will figure out how to use the postal service.

    Then again, I'm kind of clueless on why a person would even need to go into a physical branch other than initially getting a license. What kind of reasons do people legitimately need to go in there for?
     
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    In Orange County CA, just outside LA, most things can be done on line with DMV. Some things require a personal appearance but they have an online appointment system that works well. I've had to go in for 3 or 4 different things that could not be done online, things requiring photos, etc. but I was seen at the appointed time and was in and out quickly. One time I needed new glasses and I even flunked the eye test but the girl said I looked like I could see ok so she passed me anyway. Might have been because I told her I could see well enough to see how pretty she was. Girls like that even from old geezers.
     
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    I'm sure you can imagine that several things cannot be done online, like when finger prints or pictures are involved. I CA and NY you have to appear to apply for title and tag for vehicles initially. CA and NY both have online appointment systems and I have used both and been seen on time and the business was handled quickly. It is hard not to be properly prepared if you read the instructions on the websites. In North Mississippi, if I have business there, I know everybody in the office and they just invite me into the back office and get everything done right away. Small town privilege I guess.
     
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    @Wrye83
    I guess I should have clarified. I agree with your, Wrye83's, statement about the politeness of the offices in the Philippines. I have had no problems I can recall. The statements about the idiots in front of me were about the Philippine offices. I use websites or, when appearance is necessary, appointments in the US and have no problems.
     
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    Verifying skills have not diminished is probably the main reason. Reflexes and eye sight both get worse with age. Life doesn't always wait for old age. When it's time, can we depend on people to voluntarily give up there ability to drive or even admit that they should? I had the pleasure of convincing my father when it was time to give up driving. Oklahoma has me come in every 4 years for my commercial license renewal.

    Then again, I'm kind of clueless on why a person would even need to go into a physical branch other than initially getting a license. What kind of reasons do people legitimately need to go in there for?[/QUOTE]
     
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    Texas allowed initial registrations and transfers to be mailed in. (According to their website.) They also require drivers license renewal every 10 years and they only require you to come in if you want to update your picture, but that isn't required. I still look like I'm 21 on my license.
     
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    Well if Texas ever becomes part of the United States, that may change. Not your looks, just their laws. By the way, I support the modus operandi in Texas, it is the same as Mississippi in most of the important ways.
     
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