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Some foreigners do not agree with getting vaccinations in the Philippines. My experience is my child was born at Silliman and had every scheduled vaccinations he should have had. In fact I told the doctor I wanted the top level possible. As a result (perhaps) , plus daily vitamins, he hasn’t missed a day of school in 4 years.

 

This is a serious and useful thread about vaccinations and about real problems people have and are having here

Perhaps religious nonsense is irrelevant and insensitive.......

 

Yes, I agree that I don't put much credence in what the WHO says. The post was just about the advice that the WHO issued to the Philippines and other countries on the epidemic and vaccination for polio. Fortunately, in this case, the Philippine government agreed with our opinions or we would be getting a polio booster/vaccination in order to be allowed to leave the country. The post was a response to "notmyrealname" hypothetical post about forced paperwork on vaccinations. It was just for information, not an opinion or endorsement. The point was that if the Philippine government had followed the WHO advice, you and I would get a polio booster or vaccination, no matter what our opinion, if we wanted to leave the country. I am glad that Duterte did not decree that.

 

I remember the Polio truck that used to come around and serve up sugar cubes with a pink center ... so my vaccine was oral

 

An interesting observation, If I understand you correctly then Covid merely finds the weakness in your system and exacerbates it to the point of death? If you are a heavy smoker or lived in a region with a high level of pollution then Covid comes along and attacks your weakened lungs and you die of Acute Respiratory distress, (Which if you look at the stats is the overwhelming cause of death). Did not AIDS work the same way as it destroyed your immune system and you died of cancer etc. ?, still it was AIDS that killed you. So still not sure of your point .. As many cases I have read that resulted in the death of otherwise "healthy" people and your conjecture is that they were not really healthy at all ? Or is it just to make a point that Vaccine (any Vaccine) is pointless and we should just let this (or any) disease run its course? I for one disagree and have vaccinated my child for every recommended ailment my pediatrician offers.


But an interesting observation nonetheless

 

So how do they produce a vaccine which functions to destroy the virus or make it unable to attach/penetrate the host's cells without using some part of the virion (virus particle) and then awaiting the host's immune response?

If you can come up with an answer you will be a billionaire. Also, do the same for all the other vaccines which work in the same general way (but have already been proven to have very low negative side effects) and you will be a trillionaire. In fact, apply this method of curing diseases (in plants as well as animals) without the risk of any side-effects whatsoever, and you will own the world (and can be President).

In the meantime, think if you personally want to avoid any new vaccine or medicine until it has been tested out on a majority of other humans - on that I will agree.

 

http://quarantine.doh.gov.ph/oral-polio-vaccination/
BOQ part of DOH will do oral vaccinations for polio. Trouble is I think the closest authorized dr. is in Bacolod. The local Health Centers do the oral polio vaccine but I am not sure it they give to adults. They probably do measles too but I am only sure of the polio. I am not sure of the age cutoff. There is a Health Center, although it does not look like one, on Tate up past Forest Camp. There is another, bigger one, on the Palinpinon Rd. just past Terra Alta on the opposite side, before you get to the Palinpinon Barangay Hall. Neither has a sign and they are open only certain days. In Palinpinon when they are there they have a dr., nurse, and helper. I'm sure there are others but I don't know where. You should inquire at your barangay hall as to the schedule and location of the health center in your location. The DOH uses these health centers for polio vaccinations.

 

I have spoken with kids, often boys around 11-14, who actually are very bright - showing great interest and knowledge in science. There are some very bright people here, but not all can afford education to a higher level. I have also spoken with a 16 year old, who gained HONOURS in their grade, who has the same standard as an 11 year old in the UK.

Unfortunately, Grades include points for cleaning the classroom and attending after-school dance classes for parades and similar activities.

 

Indeed, and apparently this is the way forward until a vaccine is available.

So let's take 1,000 random students across Dumaguete. Then deduct from that amount:

• Any students that don't have computer access at home.
• Any students that don't have home internet.
• Any students that experience regular brownouts.
• Any students whose internet provider randomly stops offering a service for no apparent reason.
• Any students whose internet is not fast enough to allow video calls.
• Any students whose parents are not responsible enough to monitor them to ensure they study hard.
• Any students that don't have a quiet area in their home to perform said tasks without interruption or distraction.
• Any students that have millions of siblings because their parents breed like rabbits, so there aren't enough computers in the home for all.
• Any students that have a teacher that falls into any of the aforementioned categories.
• Any students that have a teacher that doesn't have the experience and skills to perform online teaching to a sufficient standard.

I wonder how many of those 1,000 students would remain...........?

On the plus side, in the 2019 PISA assessment, out of 79 countries The Philippines ranked 79th in reading, and 78th in maths and science, so I guess they can't really drop much lower!