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Bacong When do they tear down all illegal structures here?

Discussion in 'Surrounding Areas' started by tuba-coma, Feb 26, 2018.

  1. Plainspoken

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    Let's change the words "cannot" and "can" to "shouldn't" and "should". You don't have to change my mind, I don't want anyone to tear anything down and I really don't care what people build on the beach. I live on the property that has the seawall that I posted the picture of. I was only making comment from the best knowledge that I had in answer to the OP's question about when will they tear down the illegal structures, because it was my understanding that most were illegal. As you and I both know, this is the Philippines and the law or rules have little to do with the reality. I live next to a property that, I think, gerry_bc built a few years ago. Whether I have him pegged right or not, read his comments on the thread beach front property, shoreline - law problems? He has the same opinion about the structures. As I originally stated, in the PH illegal is a sick bird. What is actually happening is what anyone or anybody has the nerve and money to do. What is actually happening has little to do with what is legal, right or even advisable. How many people do you suppose that block the shoreline or build on the "no build" areas, actually have leases that allow them to do so? I would guess not many. I don't listen to lawyers and real estate professionals to tell me what is actually happening either, I can see that for myself. However, it is prudent to ask a lawyer, if he is competent, what is legal or not. Whether the legality matters is a different subject and I'm sure some examples would prove that it does not make much difference here.
     
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  2. Dave_Hounddriver

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    I would not suggest that to the owners of Ayala's Amara Subdivision in Liloan, Cebu. Not only is the beach blocked but when I tried to walk on it, armed guards escorted me off the "private property" Certain resorts on Mactan have similar restrictions.

    I can understand that they want to keep the "riff raff" away from their V.I.P.customers and my opinion as to whether it should be right or wrong does not matter. Point is some people get away with more than others and DENR has different rules in different area and each representative of DENR seems to interpret them differently, in some cases depending on 'gifts'.

    If I was one of the rich folk who benefited from the private beach and armed guards I may find myself relieved that I was not as likely to be accosted by beggars and terrorists. Instead, I am a poor-eigner who just likes to walk on the beach and gets as frustrated as the other posters here about coming up to blockages that I may not pass. It makes me rather vocal about it.

    In my opinion, expecting the beach to be free of buildings, walls and fences and expecting the freedom to walk anywhere on the waterfront is a western concept that shows lack of understanding of how things are done in Philippines. I have learned that the easiest way to work around these blockages is to wear a swim suit when walking the beach and be prepared for the occasional swim/wade around an obstacle.
     
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  3. Jens K

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    Yeah, exactly to those, because in their ignorance and while feeling oh-so-special they don't even notice that they might doing something wrong. Whole Lapu Lapu Island is really bad as well - you can drive for kilometers and only have walls right (sea-side) and poor people housings left, resort here, resort there, you're surrounded by water but don't have a chance to even see it without paying a hefty price.
     
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  4. Notmyrealname

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    Good social conscience and also very good swimming pool and food (the restaurant is within three feet of the sea). Bit off topic but seemed an opportunity to mention it.
     
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    Is the swimming pool at El Dorado the same size before the fire?
     
  6. Notmyrealname

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    Went back there recently to eat and swim - car park was roped off for special visitors only (including one space for a fire engine and one for an ambulance) and day visitors are no longer allowed to use the swimming pool. Has gone from a 9/10 to a 1/10.
     
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    I prefer Pura Vida, good food, great swimming pool, prices are Okay and the girls are sexy :biggrin:
     
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