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Who rides a M/C unregistered for 3 Months ?

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  1. Dave & Imp

    Dave & Imp DI Forum Patron Highly Rated Poster Showcase Reviewer

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    I rode a M/C unregistered for 5 Months.

    I rode a M/C unregistered for 5 Months.

    I actually thought I had enough paper work, until about 2 weeks ago when the LTO representative told me that the temporary papers I had only were valid for 30 days. I purchased my motorcycle new in Mid-November, and got my plate in about mid-January, but no tag or registration. I was told by the dealer to come back in a couple of weeks, for about 3 months. When I was informed about the one month validation, I check with a friend who had also purchased a motorcycle, at the end of November. He had already gotten his plate and tag about two weeks before (a total of about 4 months).

    When I confronted my dealer and he said come back in another week, I said I would but if he did not have the registration and tag then I would go to McDonalds and tell all the expats my problem with the dealership, and I would post a similar type of item here. Within 24 hours I got a text saying they had “mis-placed” my registration and to come and get. I went in within 2 hours, and it only took them 20 minutes to find it again…lol.

    The LTO date on my registration was mid-December, so how my registration was MIA for about 4 months, I do not know. It could have been an LTO or dealer problem, and don’t care at this point in time. I do know that the business people do understand the local expat network of people and the results from less than good publicity.

    The answer to your question is you can ride without permanent registration for 5 months, although it is a pain, as I went though many (10+) LTO check points. Most of the time the LTO representatives which included anyone on the local public staffs were nice. They had a hard time understanding what I was given them at times. One time it was a park’s department fellow working with LTO.
     
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    paul-angie

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    Thanks Dave, but, I am still waiting for some bright spark to tell me, in the event of an accident, and a third party being injured, will the Third party Insurance cover it ?

    And, will the Comprehensive Insurance cover, be valid also ?

    And, will charges be laid by the Police for driving unregistered and uninsured, as would surely happen in Australia and probably most other Western Countries.

    These questions seems to be escaping comment.O-|:D

    Paul.
     
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    I bought a new bike in Manila and drove it for close to 6 months with only the dealer emblem on it,, took two trips to Manila and back with it also in that time.. No problem even when checked by the Coast Guard and Hi-way Traffic Police. It was insured at the time but after living here for a long time i have learned that insurance is a necessity but they usually find a reason not to pay anyway, especially if the victim is a local. You will be found guilty anyway so your insurance won't cover you.
     
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    Maybe some more answers for you

    Paul,

    I did have an accident, ran into a pedestrian. He was jay walking, looking the other way, and I even honked as he came out from behind a car….it was still my fault as explained by the investigating officer. Even though he was not in the cross walk he was still a ”pedestrian here” as it was explained with a smile. The damage was minor to him, a scratch on his leg, and pointing to his stomach area (which had not even a red mark) and holding of his wrist, while also carrying around a water bottle in the same wrist. The result was that the officer took my licensed, until I negotiated a 1600 Peso payment to the “victim.” My licensed was returned, and my name was never taken. When the victim representative asked for my phone number to give me a progress report (read “shakedown”) the officer responded that they should give me their number.

    I know some think that 1,600 pesos is a lot for nothing, but in the US, I could not call my attorney for 1,600 peso, so I figure when you live in Rome you go ahead and adjust (bribe) your way out of things, excuse me I mean do as the romans do.

    The insurance was mentioned to the officer, but his comment was this was too small of issue for insurance. I do not know the validity of the insurance if you do not have your registration, but keep your receipts as they require insurance as part of the motorcycle sale, because locals most likely do not have insurance, particularly health insurance.

    The officer asked it the bike was registered and I said “yes” they never asked for the paper work and the tag was not on it.

    It is true it is always you fault here, when you have the money to pay, no matter what the local is doing. Actually I was pleased with the method used, as within an hour of the accident, everything seemed to be a closed issue. No paper work etc, no names recorded, no accident report.
    I know you will not know the outcome until you have an accident and mine is probably not typical, but I hope this satisfies you fears. The other alternative would have been to keep riding on for me, but I never considered it. If I was a native I may have chosen that alternative, as a native told me later in the day he hit a pedestrian with his mirror on his car, but did not stopped but just looked back to see the fellow wince. We are in a different world for where we came from.
     
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    My motor plate in Angeles took about 4 months to get, Just drove on the temp. Every 2 weeks went back to the dealer and he changed the date. LOL
     
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    Purchased new MC in August 2011. Received license plate in February, 2012. Received 2011 sticker for said license plate in March 2012.

    No worries.

    Larry
     
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    Thanks folks, for all your replies.

    Very interesting Country, here, I have a LOT of adjusting to do...............LOL:D

    Paul.
     
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    welcome to the phils Paul I have been here almost 3 years still learning
     
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    Deputized traffic enforcers cannot apprehend owners of duly-registered motor vehicles or motorcycles that have no permanent plates, with the extension on the suspension of the No Plate-No Travel policy of the Land Transportation Office.

    Janine Lawas, chief of the LTO District Office in Bais City, Negros Oriental, said a new memorandum issued recently states that “due to the non-availability of permanent plates from the LTO, the No Plate-No Travel policy can no longer apply”.

    The memorandum, signed by Assistant Secretary Virginia Torres, LTO chief, ordered the suspension of the apprehension of motor vehicles and/or motorcycles that have no motor plates, provided that the owner can present documents showing that the unit has been registered with the LTO, she said.

    The use of improvised plates is allowed, provided that they meet specifications issued by the LTO, like exact dimensions similar to an original one and of the white background and green letters and numbers.

    The owner must also carry at all times a photocopy of the official receipt and the Certificate of Registration of the vehicle, to avoid apprehension, Lawas said.

    Lawas met with Sr. Supt. Edward Carranza, Negros Oriental provincial police director last week, to discuss the suspension of the No Plate-No Travel policy.

    The policy was first suspended on February 15 and was to expire on March 31, but Lawas said the suspension remains in effect until otherwise ordered by the LTO.*PNA

    DAILY STAR: Negros Oriental

    Larry
     
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    Thanks Larry.:smile: Good find.

    Paul.
     
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