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This is an interesting tactic. Blurt out unsubstantiated conclusions from unreferenced "liberal and conservative sources" then avoid accountability by ->

What a great way to avoid accountability for ones thinking.

 

Very True Pop's, there are some very caring people in the world who show their compassion in many ways.
But for so many without their belief's they would have no hope for a better future.....I count my blessings everyday.

 

I think it needs to refer to specific people to be political. To say that politicians can be stupid, governments corrupt is not politics, it is common knowledge (or perceptions) - to say 'President X' is stupid is being political.

 

yes, it is a truth, a sad truth, that the poor have always been poor. another sad truth is that old people always die of something.

 

My comments regarding Doubters and Complacency was aimed at anyone who may well be reading this Thread who does not take the threat seriously ( or as in Maine USA, people who attend functions, not social distancing and spread the virus) . I agree there is economic consquences for every country, more so in poor countries, sad truth is, the poor have always been poor, something other countries may well be about to experience. But that is another subject you may like to discuss in another thread.
My wife's sister has just informed her that Illigan City Mindanao has now got a serious problem with Covid. Like in the past we will send what we can afford to help those in need.
respectfully JB

 

I agree with that as stress can have terrible effects on the body if prolonged.

But is there not the case of a bit of fear, leading to stress and other anxieties, causing people to take more precautions against catching Covid-19 (and certain other diseases, such as AIDS) and thus lowering the spread of the virus?

 

I actually haven’t noticed any doubters in this thread. Everybody acknowledges the potential hazards of COVID19. Nor do I see complacency. I do see an acknowledgment that the actual numbers we are seeing are much different than the original predictions. It is a good thing to review data and begin to form a picture based on what the actual numbers say rather than what the predictions said.

And while your telling of your experience with your friend is heartrending as they always are, it is a one off; it is anecdotal. The data simply doesn’t say that most people are in danger of spending 50 days on a ventilator anymore than most people will get heart attacks, cancer or die in car accidents. We should not be complacent about any of that but the dangers of covid19 are no less nor more than other major diseases and accidents that plague our society.

And sorry if this sounds cold but these dangers must be balanced by considering the effects of economic collapse, especially on a poor country. We always have for other dangers and it should be no different with covid.


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Thats why i left the link under my post, where this is explained. Or at least in my eyes.

Stress and anxiety lead to weaker immune system. I hope you understand why this helps a virus to spread.

 

Possible, but no one would know that for sure at the beginning. We all benefit from analysis by hindsight. If the virus had mutated (including by recombination with other viruses), there is a possibility it could have ravaged the World - and every age group.

If that had happened and there was no lockdown then where would we be now? I doubt the figures could ever be proved accurately either way, so it is all about risk analysis with very little stats available BEFORE important decisions had to be made. They did know that it was spreading worldwide and that it was more dangerous to health than seasonal flu. Also, doing something and then saying it did not have much effect is not always possible. For example: 1000 people were stopped from jumping off a very tall cliff onto hard ground below - pretty obvious we saved 1000 lives BUT 1000 people were stopped from swimming for 3 months, so how many who would have died did not? There are some stats available for deaths due to swimming but they depend on water currents, temperature, dangerous animals present, experience of the swimmers, etc. These are like the unknowns in a virus pandemic. But I do not put this position without recognising the economic and some health factors associated with lockdowns - had the World worn masks from about day 1, been checked at stores, airports, etc. (in whatever way possible at that time) and been educated about the virus and health protocol (and followed the rules!) most lockdowns would have been unnecessary.