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Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by Sedona, Jun 22, 2021.

  1. Crystalhead

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    Thanks Poncho, but I never implied that, but I did imply that in time it is likely to show this rushed out vaccine of billions was a bad approach. Of coarse I am a skeptic, only an idiot would not be.
     
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    There was nothing I said that was not accurate. I reported the actual number according to VAERS. You can argue about the issues with VAERS and the fact that most of those reports have not yet been investigated and confirmed. But, the fact is that number of death reports have been filed. Everyone can feel free to just write off VAERS if you don't trust it which is certainly what big Pharm would like us all to do. I think the fact that number of deaths has been reported is at least something we should be aware of, albeit with the awareness that there may be issues with the accuracy of the number, which could also, by the way, be much higher than is being reported. The fact that nobody actually knows the real number is by itself fairly disturbing.
     
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    So there are maybe thousands that have reported long term issues after receiving the vaccine? I have not heard of but maybe 6 cases so I am just throwing that number out there.
     
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    The American Medical Association says 96 percent of “practicing physicians” have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, the nation’s largest doctor group said Friday.

    The AMA said its survey of practicing doctors showed “no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. “Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated,” the AMA said in a statement accompanying its poll results.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucej...6-of-doctors-are-vaccinated-against-covid-19/
     
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    Not so. You said vaccine related deaths. This implies causality. And you meant to imply that.
     
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    Not so, you can't just pick a few words out of the middle of a sentence. What I said was: "5,479 reported vaccine related deaths in the US according to VAERS".
    You should be careful about projecting meaning intention into someone's mind when you don't even pay careful attention to what they said.
     
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    It is interesting that people explain away deaths by vaccine as deaths that would have happened anyway, when they wouldn't accept the same argument about COVID's affect on the elderly. Keeping an ear to the ground, you can see multiple studies popping up that show there are negative effects in some recipients. I've posted a link to one such study below. Kuwait is about to begin vaccinating persons over 12 years of age.

    https://news.kuwaittimes.net/website/heart-problems-in-teens-after-covid-shots/
     
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    Pablo!!!!! Persons cannot report long term issues until a long term has come to past.
    This link @CENTER OF DESEASE CONTROL keeps a readily update on the reports of side effects, and it seems it's adding up. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
     
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    I read everything you said, and you choose your words, not me. Everyone knows what VAERS is. People who are careful say that Vaers accepts any report of an adverse event regardless of proof whether it was caused by vaccine. Further: As of May 11, 2021, the CDC says that “a review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.”
    You chose your words.
     
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    I don't. It became clear early on that vaxxing the elderly in elderly homes in Norway there were about thirty deaths. As long as we learn from it and develop criteria I reluctantly accept a few deaths. It isn't much solace for the families though.
     
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