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    Not complaining about domination - I would wear a uniform (not Nazi though) is she is into it.
     
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    This is one that I depart from John, mostly...

    Being a ‘63 born n bred new arrival, the war had only been over for about 18 years. Now think back to what you might have been doing when ‘99 turned 2000, not that long ago huh? Folk still talked about what they went through, what they lost, how they managed for most of my formative years. I learned lots.

    At least I got the impression that the sacrifice, hardship was worth something in the belief that something better could be achieved. I’ve picked that up, and if I turn the clock back a wee bit further I grew up with people that had the guts to stand up to Hitler\Mussolini/Franco before the Uk decided to defend Poland. From our ‘country’ too...could go back to the fruitless pointless fought for the rich ‘Great War’ as well. Lions n Donkeys, Grandfer went through the hell of Passchaendale as a teenager gassed to fek and without the hope of a pension, social security or a job...just for what? So Britannia could rule the waves? So women could be still denied the vote? Sheesh, my blood boils.

    Memory is a strong factor here, we ‘Brits’ need to have a long hard look at ourselves and start pointing fingers. None of my lot owned slave ships, coal mines or supplied the biggest set of traitors to support Hitler in the 30s or Russia in the 50’s to 80s. Forgive me for forgetting Colonial atrocities back further.

    It’s good to face forward, I agree, but let’s learn from the past and never let the b-+=/;=ds have it their way again.

    Basta! Non Pasaran! Basta! Ya Basta!

    cheers,

    C
     
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    I can understand your sentiments Cerne, which the present generation have yet to grasp.
    That those who feel badly done to, because of the restrictions imposed at present, have to find things to complain about, to vent their frustration.
    My own Father ( born in 1901 ) lived through two world wars and the Great Depression, compared to that, I find it hard to justify peoples
    behaviour these last 18 months in Britain.
    When I hear talk of how badly treated people were in the America's a 100 years ago , I reflect on the lives of ordinary people in Britain living in workhouses or farmworkers treated badly, people living in Tenement blocks with one toilet to the landing's for ten family's,
    with no medical care, relying on the kindness of others in time of need.
    No we dont want those days back, our forefathers fought for the freedom from tyranny, the fight today is the fight for survival against Pollution, Climate change, World poverty, let's make them history.
     
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    Nice answer John! Found myself nodding along as I read it.
    Let’s not chuck too many stones before finding our targets first. Can I add to your list? The erosion of civil liberties in the UK is alarming, if not reflective of a wider global trend.

    “Though the world (once) stood up to him, the b*tch that bore him is in heat again.”

    cheers,

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    Well Cerne, I'm not sure what the alternative would look like, Anarchy?
    When I look around the world, I'll take my chances in Britain, for now at least.
     
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    Anarchism has a venerated place at least in my heart, Syndaclism too, John, Valley boy you see, from stock that fought back. Brits have always been so comfy with their settled views. Westmonster and all that. Takes a dirty annoying Celt gypo to point that out. I wouldn’t trust em as far as I could kick em. And as long as I have breath in my body I will say “Nay”.

    see you on the barricades babe, see you when the lights go low Joe.

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    The UK is certainly safer than some countries (narrowly beating North Korea), but I would not put it anywhere near top of the list. I agree with your "for now at least" as it has elected what is the most right-wing government (born and raised at Eton) for many years - that government's right-wing agenda has somewhat been swerved off-course by the pandemic (although that in itself gives many excuses for draconian laws - which will stay in place long after the last coronavirus has waved a white flag) but will resume at full power soon.

    I read only today of new laws to curtain Judicial Reviews - in other words, to stop people legally protesting against Parliament through use of the Courts. That means the government proposes the laws and the Royal Family twists them to suit their own needs before they become law. I would rather rely on the Courts.

    Btw, the 'INDEPENDENT official enquiry' which recommended curtailing Judicial Reviews was chaired by a TORY from the House of Lords! LOL.
     
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    Said with such passion I can only admire your stance.
     
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    Kindly said, you’re welcome at the hearth anytime bro. Love to youse n always.
     
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